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Old 12-14-2018, 12:48 PM
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Default NJ now limiting the magazine capacity of off duty cops.

I thought California was bad, but I could see San Francisco doing this.

I guesss the Acting Bergen County Prosecutor sent letters informing all Chiefs of police, Police Director, Officer in Charge, and Sheriffs that sworn personnel, when off duty, is prohibited carrying more than 10 rounds magazines unless while on duty or traveling to and from an authorized place of duty.

The statute applies to all LE. The violation of the statute constitutes a Fourth Degree crime. Unbelievable! Thought I’ share.
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Old 12-14-2018, 12:52 PM
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That's real cute. Who does this carpet bagger think is gonna enforce this interpretation of the law?

Maybe his protection detail should all go to 5 or 6 shot wheel guns in protest.

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Old 12-14-2018, 6:10 PM
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Yep. That’ll keep everyone in the state safe from all those off duty cops committing senseless acts of gun violence.........
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Old 12-14-2018, 7:25 PM
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Old 12-14-2018, 8:00 PM
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Total BS. Just more infringement from the left.
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Old 12-14-2018, 8:39 PM
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Until LEOSA was amended, NJ cops were sweating LEOs for carrying hollow points, even though it was the only ammunition authorized by their department. It happened a lot at airports where the guns were inspected as part of the security process. Several LASD guys were detained long enough to miss flights while their LEO “status” was verified. The ammo was seized. I had to send one of my guys to the range to get more duty ammo after such an adventure.

Some cops get off on hassling other cops over BS like this.
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:16 PM
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This is why are country is failing lol messing with the citizens and cops over guns and then letting anybody without knowledge of what there background is cross the border into our country
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Until LEOSA was amended, NJ cops were sweating LEOs for carrying hollow points, even though it was the only ammunition authorized by their department. It happened a lot at airports where the guns were inspected as part of the security process. Several LASD guys were detained long enough to miss flights while their LEO “status” was verified. The ammo was seized. I had to send one of my guys to the range to get more duty ammo after such an adventure.

Some cops get off on hassling other cops over BS like this.

That is messed up. If NJ cops were sweating LEOs for carrying hollowpoints, I wonder what kind of ammo NJ cops carry.
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Old 12-15-2018, 6:23 AM
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NJ is really the armpit of America... this just further confirms it.
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Old 12-15-2018, 9:25 AM
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That is messed up. If NJ cops were sweating LEOs for carrying hollowpoints, I wonder what kind of ammo NJ cops carry.
Seized LASD ammo, maybe?
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Old 12-15-2018, 1:02 PM
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The way I read the memo, it almost says “a crappy law took effect Dec 10th. Here’s what it says you can’t do. Inform your folks so they can plan accordingly and protect themselves. We know it’s crappy and we’re trying to fix it.”

Maybe I’m just a glass half-full kind of guy?
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Old 12-15-2018, 2:18 PM
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This seems a logical step- what with all the off-duty NJ cops blasting people with so many rounds over the last year...
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Old 12-15-2018, 3:22 PM
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Seized LASD ammo, maybe?


Lol. Confiscated ammo = Free...maybe there’s a budget line item for that.


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Old 12-15-2018, 3:33 PM
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Laws should apply to everyone equally.
LEOs should be no exception, simply based on their chosen line of work.
Enough of the class warfare.
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Old 12-15-2018, 3:54 PM
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Why don't they strike? Shut the city down. Idiotic rule

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Old 12-15-2018, 4:17 PM
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Yep. That’ll keep everyone in the state safe from all those off duty cops committing senseless acts of gun violence.........
Well statistically police are about 7x more lawless than citizens who have a carry permit ...
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Old 12-15-2018, 4:21 PM
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Old 12-15-2018, 4:27 PM
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Well statistically police are about 7x more lawless than citizens who have a carry permit ...
I'd argue that part of that statistic is likely flawed upward a bit due to the increased scrutiny LEO's get on/off the job; but it is still a salient point regardless of the exact number that our elected overlords are always keen to overlook
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:28 AM
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Laws should apply to everyone equally.
LEOs should be no exception, simply based on their chosen line of work.
Enough of the class warfare.
Careful, remember you are in the Law Enforcement Forum. Please re-read the rules. Your opinion is not appreciated here like it might be in off topic.
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Old 12-16-2018, 7:43 AM
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Here’s an article on the subject.:

Molon Labe???


https://www.independentsentinel.com/...unds-off-duty/
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Old 12-16-2018, 7:51 AM
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Laws should apply to everyone equally.
LEOs should be no exception, simply based on their chosen line of work.
Enough of the class warfare.
Just when I thought this thread had the muslim "Jesus takes the wheel" chick beat for the "Moron of the Day" Award, you had to go and take the lead.

Way to go.
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Old 12-17-2018, 8:11 AM
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There is very little, if any logic to the reasoning behind laws that limit magazine capacity to begin with. I wouldn't look for any as this expands it's way to include law enforcement. Next up will possibly be law enforcement while on duty.
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Old 12-17-2018, 8:15 AM
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Coming to CA soon

Careful how you vote would seem appropriate here.
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:39 AM
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And who exactly is going to arrest a fellow officer for this "crime"???
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And who exactly is going to arrest a fellow officer for this "crime"???
With your reply it clearly shows that you are most likely not LE.

Who is going to arrest the officer is the individual looking to make a name for himself/herself. Wanting to advance upon the backs of other officers.
Internal Affairs, Management.

There are many who want to get away from patrol and if betraying a fellow officer gets you that promotion so be it..

That is who will arrest a fellow officer.
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Old 12-17-2018, 4:57 PM
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With your reply it clearly shows that you are most likely not LE.

Who is going to arrest the officer is the individual looking to make a name for himself/herself. Wanting to advance upon the backs of other officers.
Internal Affairs, Management.

There are many who want to get away from patrol and if betraying a fellow officer gets you that promotion so be it..

That is who will arrest a fellow officer.
I am not in LE and maybe I am poking my head in where it doesnt belong. For that I apologize and I'll be leaving after this.

I assumed professional courtesy would be in order for what I assume would be the most unilaterally hated law that LEO's have to enforce and didnt consider the situation you brought up.

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Careful how you vote would seem appropriate here.


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Old 12-17-2018, 5:12 PM
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New York should do this for on duty so they shoot fewer civilians when firing at crooks.
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I am not in LE and maybe I am poking my head in where it belongs. For that I apologize and I'll be leaving after this.

I assumed professional courtesy would be in order for what I assume would be the most unilaterally hated law that LEO's have to enforce and didnt consider the situation you brought up.

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If you’re a law abiding citizen with a valid CCW permit. I’m not going to bother asking to see your gun, verify it’s ok for you to carry that gun if your county has such a restriction, or verify you have a 10rd mag capacity. That is, unless there’s a reason for me to such as if you’re a subject of a criminal investigation.
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Old 12-17-2018, 6:07 PM
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I am not in LE and maybe I am poking my head in where it belongs. For that I apologize and I'll be leaving after this.

I assumed professional courtesy would be in order for what I assume would be the most unilaterally hated law that LEO's have to enforce and didnt consider the situation you brought up.

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Nah man you are good to post here. Agitators are shown the door. Your comment might not have been well informed but I understood your point.
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Old 12-17-2018, 6:14 PM
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On the 12th, they were hero's. On the 13th they became potential outlaws.
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And who exactly is going to arrest a fellow officer for this "crime"???
Anti gun cops.

There’s lots of them. They even arrest law abiding civilian gun owners that are (were) pro-police.
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Hate to say it but if I can’t be trusted with a standard capacity mag how can any LEO. Fair is fair even thought I hate the current laws.

Maybe when the left stops giving LEO exemptions, then we might be able to turn some of these laws around.
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Ultimately this is a good thing because it exposes the true intentions of the left. A caveat for their gun control was always “but police will still be able to”. Hopefully this will inspire a more united 2A fight in NJ.
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Ultimately this is a good thing because it exposes the true intentions of the left. A caveat for their gun control was always “but police will still be able to”. Hopefully this will inspire a more united 2A fight in NJ.
My thoughts exactly.
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I say remove all weapons from LEA. They're only going to use it on minorities anyway.
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