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New G17 slide and red dot
Want to try and get into red dots on some of my pistols and see if I like it. Eyes are getting up there in age and thought be smart to start with one of the cheaper options and get a new slide for my G17. Probably going with the Aim Surplus W3 slide with RMR cut.
Question, what red dot you recommend for the first time pistol red dot shooter? I am a pretty proficient shooter and for now they will only go on purely range guns, no CCWs. I see the Vulcan that has the circle around the dot to help you find it, but so many others. Any recommendations? TIA... |
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If you are getting a slide with rmr cut then choose dust that use that same footprint? trijicon rmr or sro, holosun 507c or 407c are common choices
There are other lower priced ones like veridian and swampfox Just my $0.02 but get an sro. Nice glass, large window, and emitter seems better protected from glare (like if you are shooting with the sun right in front of you at around 45 degrees overhead?. A dot like holosun can show many ?dots? from the glare/reflection off the emitter but sro seems a lot less sensitive) and dot is daylight bright (dot like veridian looked washed out in the bright sun) |
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Basically, what I did was find a pre cut slide on Brownells.com and adjusted my Red Dot choices accordingly (holosun).
What I found out I don't like about the Holosun is the auto brightness while at the range. See, if I am under cover of shade, the auto brightness is lower, but then it's hard to see the target when its out in the bright sun. Just keep that in mind.
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I like the Holosun HE507 from Primary Arms with the Vulcan ACSS reticle:
https://www.primaryarms.com/holosun-...vulcan-reticle https://www.primaryarms.com/holosun-...t-acss-reticle It's got this "big circle" that really helps with "finding the dot" while you're adapting. Once you get the hang of finding the dot, you can turn off the big circle if you don't like it. I like green, but they come in red, too. $279 with Mil/LEO pricing (Green) $244 with Mil/LEO pricing (Red)
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If you are getting an RMR cut slide, go with a Holosun as your first red dot. Just make sure you don't buy the wrong optic with the wrong footprint.
If it's not for carry/duty use, get one of these:https://holosun.com/products/reflex-...hs507comp.html
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It?s big, for me the thing that prints the most with appendix carry is the optic.
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I really like the Holosuns with the ACSS reticle. I have one on my carry postil and one on one of my G17's. The other G17 has a Holosun (non-ACSS reticle). I enjoy both, but the ACSS reticle really shines when you're shooting while moving, shooting off-axis and not jsut standing stationary and facing your target, etc. Allows for really fast correction of your not seeing your dot right away.
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I think there is growing evidence that holosun and the higher quality made in China are ?good enough? these days
but if someone else is buying, I will ask for acro p2 if I want a super tough and enclosed dot, or sro or romeo3xl for an open carry competition type dot |
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That particular optic is geared towards Competition shooters as the window is HUUUUUGE!
The most prominent Carry Optics red dots are the Trijicon SRO, Leupold Deltapoint Pro, the C-more RTS2, and the Romeo 3 Max/Romeo 3 XL. All these optics are massive, have top or side-load battery compartments and run off of 2032s. They are all not known for being very durable as well. Holosun's competition red dot is the first real challenger to the Trijicon SRO that uses the RMR footprint. The adjustable reticle is also unique and potentially gives them a leg up over so many other optics.
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The scs models fix this issue. Otherwise I use manual adjaut |
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If you're going with a Holosun, I'd highly recommend witnessing marking the battery tray screw with nail polish/etc and checking it often. They are known to loosen, fall off into outer space and eject the battery onto the deck rendering your RDS inoperable if it's in battery only/lock mode.
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