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Old 06-03-2019, 9:52 AM
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What exactly is the chief of police form?letting them know i set up shop basically?but they dont need to give a yay or nay on this?
I guess it's for the sake of records keeping. We're just letting them know we applied for it. He/she has no saying on it.
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Old 06-18-2019, 9:33 AM
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need a little help, not sure where to post. tried to do a search to see if info was already on here.
I inadvertently let my COE expire. I understand that i have to apply all over again like the 1st time.
Is this considered new or renewal then?
Is there a way to provide my expired COE number or is that moot?
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Old 06-18-2019, 12:45 PM
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need a little help, not sure where to post. tried to do a search to see if info was already on here.
I inadvertently let my COE expire. I understand that i have to apply all over again like the 1st time.
Is this considered new or renewal then?
Is there a way to provide my expired COE number or is that moot?
I think it depends on how long it has been expired. Go to the CFARS website and see if you can renew it.
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Old 06-20-2019, 9:40 PM
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Targetsportsusa.com just emailed that they will no longer ship to FFL03 + COE holders. Laxammo is still in the air. Awaiting CA DOJ.
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Targetsportsusa.com just emailed that they will no longer ship to FFL03 + COE holders. Laxammo is still in the air. Awaiting CA DOJ.
Legal thread on why TargetSport is wrong.
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Old 06-21-2019, 1:49 AM
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Try to convince their lawyer of that. Until then it doesnt matter what we think on calguns.
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:06 PM
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There's been few other posts regarding the TargetSport. It's a shame but guess it's gonna lean to that way.

Now I am wondering all the others are not shipping to us.
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Hey any update if OP got his 03? Im on day 60 and still nothing. CC was charged on the 3rd of april
Did yours arrive yet?

CC was charged April 23; I haven't heard anything yet. I figure late July I'll start asking questions.

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Old 07-01-2019, 7:43 AM
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Started April 15th.
Received COE in less than 24 hours.
FFL 03 app received by ATF on 4/18, CC charged same day.
FFL 03 received at my home on 6/26/19.
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Old 07-11-2019, 1:41 PM
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FFL 03 app received by ATF on 4/23/19.
FFL 03 received at my home on 7/11/19.
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Old 08-04-2019, 9:07 PM
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Anybody from OC who have applied for FFL 03 that knows the office address of Sheriff Don Barnes? OCSD website and google seem not that useful this time.
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Old 08-05-2019, 9:14 AM
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Default Sherrif Don Barnes Office Address

I called the administrative office of OCSD and this what I was told.

550 N Flower St, Santa Ana, CA 92703
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Old 08-12-2019, 7:36 PM
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What do i put for business type on the coe app?
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:01 PM
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What do i put for business type on the coe app?


Collector. Maybe personal collector. But I just put collector and didn't get any problems.


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I'm helping a friend go through the paperwork for his COE/FFL03 and the Live Scan form seems to have changed since I did it in regards that the Top Portion "Application Submission" section, the "Contributing Agency Information" section and the "Level of Service" section is all blank, whereas when I did it those sections, for the most part, were filled in with provided information because of the type of background check (something about Firearms Certificate or something). Is this to remain blank and will be filled in by the checking agency later? Does the Live Scan provider fill it in for me? Should I enter the same info that was on my Live Scan Form when I printed it out?

Any ideas? Anyone gone through this recently after the change middle of last year?

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Old 01-15-2020, 10:11 AM
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I'm helping a friend go through the paperwork for his COE/FFL03 and the Live Scan form seems to have changed since I did it in regards that the Top Portion "Application Submission" section, the "Contributing Agency Information" section and the "Level of Service" section is all blank, whereas when I did it those sections, for the most part, were filled in with provided information because of the type of background check (something about Firearms Certificate or something). Is this to remain blank and will be filled in by the checking agency later? Does the Live Scan provider fill it in for me? Should I enter the same info that was on my Live Scan Form when I printed it out?

Any ideas? Anyone gone through this recently after the change middle of last year?

Thanks in advance!
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Hi! Thanks...I do have my old Live Scan form with all the pre-filled in information, but didn't know if we need to fill it in to the new form or leave it blank as they have it? (they keep changing stuff!). Anyone know if the information from 2019 is still the same?

I've emailed them and tried calling, but you can't get a live person and I haven't got a response to my email since last Thursday.
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:08 AM
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It's same.
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:10 AM
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Cool! Thanks for your help!

I wonder why they have a blank one now available for download for this type of Live Scan check? They do that just to make it more difficult and cause issues for the person submitting for a COE/FFL?
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Old 01-15-2020, 5:33 PM
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Cool! Thanks for your help!

I wonder why they have a blank one now available for download for this type of Live Scan check? They do that just to make it more difficult and cause issues for the person submitting for a COE/FFL?
This one still has all the info you need, it is not blank. If it looks blank to you, it could be a problem with your PDF viewer

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...s/bcia8016.pdf
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Old 01-16-2020, 6:58 AM
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Perhaps my original post was a bit vaguely worded. The link you give has a form that has all the fields there is just no pre-filled in info like the old form had. I found my old one and am going to copy over the pre-filled info in hopes that it's all still valid.

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Interesting, I just downloaded it on another computer and used Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and it has the information pre-filled in. Weird, I wonder what's wrong with the other computer? Anyway, thanks again...again!
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Perhaps my original post was a bit vaguely worded. The link you give has a form that has all the fields there is just no pre-filled in info like the old form had. I found my old one and am going to copy over the pre-filled info in hopes that it's all still valid.

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Interesting, I just downloaded it on another computer and used Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and it has the information pre-filled in. Weird, I wonder what's wrong with the other computer? Anyway, thanks again...again!
Yes - that is why I mentioned the possibility that your PDF reader was an issue. It is not necessarily a problem with your computer, although it is a sign that you should update your PDF reader.

I have seen it before, for some reason the fields will be blank on some readers. It probably has more to do with the way they constructed the PDF. They should have flattened the PDF after filling in those fields, then it would have been nearly universally readable. That is sort of the point of PDF, but apparently that point is lost on DOJ.

Typical state agency level quality control though - they put out some of the worst, barely useable tech.
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Yes - that is why I mentioned the possibility. I have seen it before, for some reason the fields will be blank on some readers. It probably has more to do with the way they constructed the PDF. They should have flattened the PDF after filling in those fields, then it would have been nearly universally readable.

Typical state agency level quality control though, they put out some of the worst , barely useable tech.
Definitely seems to be the case here!

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Old 01-16-2020, 8:35 AM
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The worst part of it, is that if you didn’t already know there should be info in those fields, you would have no way of knowing there was a problem with the form until you got to the Livescan operator and they told you it could not be processed
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I sent the docs in on Jan 5, 2020 received the FFL 03 yesterday

was amazed -- it took only 2 weeks
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sent my 03 app 1/17/20
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What is the charging agency for our debit cards for the FFL03? I look up BATFE for a charge and see nothing. Submitted the app 12/27/19 and got the COE in 3 days but havent heard anything since.
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I renewed my 03FFL with ATF recently, it took less than 2 weeks from the time I mailed the renewal to having the new one in hand.
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I renewed my 03FFL with ATF recently, it took less than 2 weeks from the time I mailed the renewal to having the new one in hand.
Thanks for the info. Has me a little worried.
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What is the charging agency for our debit cards for the FFL03? I look up BATFE for a charge and see nothing. Submitted the app 12/27/19 and got the COE in 3 days but havent heard anything since.
My credit card was charged with "FIREARMS&EXPLOSIVES SE", the charge appeared just a few days after I sent in my application.


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My payment has still not cleared and its been almost 2 months.
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Checking in, got mine yesterday, mailed out the app on the 17th of jan, payment processed soon after and got it in the mail on the 19th. Really surprised how fast they are now.
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My payment has still not cleared and its been almost 2 months.
You should probably call ATF and see if you can get any info from them, but from what I've read from other threads you only get charged if you've been approved. However, its possible that you made a mistake when filling in your payment info. I believe the ATF should contact you if you've made mistakes on the application or have missing info. I doubt it will hurt to resubmit your app.
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Sent mine Dec 26 and just finally got my $30 fee cleared today. Looking up for me finally
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You should probably call ATF and see if you can get any info from them, but from what I've read from other threads you only get charged if you've been approved. However, its possible that you made a mistake when filling in your payment info. I believe the ATF should contact you if you've made mistakes on the application or have missing info. I doubt it will hurt to resubmit your app.
thanks for your suggestion to call. them. It was just sitting on someones desk for over 60 days. When I called they had mentioned the check needed a phone number written on the front of it. So i gave the cell # to them and now it cleared the next day.
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FFL 03 - Sent out 2/4, CC Charged 2/12, got mine in mail 2/24. I already had COE and FSC Instructor Cert. That was fast.
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FFL 03 - Sent out 2/4, CC Charged 2/12, got mine in mail 2/24. I already had COE and FSC Instructor Cert. That was fast.
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