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Old 12-17-2018, 8:06 PM
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FYI.

As more and more States become REAL ID compliant. (currently, 35 are compliant and 15 are on their final extensions)

Federal laws/regulations prohibits a person from having more than one REAL ID compliant DL or ID card. [6 CFR 37.29]

As evident with CA DMV "Federal Limits apply" DL/ID card and acquiring firearms from CA FFL dealers fiasco, having another States non-REAL ID compliant ID may no longer be valid for acquiring firearms from that States FFL dealer.



6 CFR 37.29
(a) An individual may hold only one REAL ID card. An individual cannot hold a REAL ID driver's license and a REAL ID identification card simultaneously. Nothing shall preclude an individual from holding a REAL ID card and a non-REAL ID card unless prohibited by his or her State.
(b) Prior to issuing a REAL ID driver's license,
(1) A State must check with all other States to determine if the applicant currently holds a driver's license or REAL ID identification card in another State.
(2) If the State receives confirmation that the individual holds a driver's license in another State, or possesses a REAL ID identification card in another State, the receiving State must take measures to confirm that the person has terminated or is terminating the driver's license or REAL ID identification card issued by the prior State pursuant to State law, regulation or procedure.
(c) Prior to issuing a REAL ID identification card,
(1) A State must check with all other States to determine if the applicant currently holds a REAL ID driver's license or identification card in another State.
(2) If the State receives confirmation that the individual holds a REAL ID card in another State the receiving State must take measures to confirm that the person has terminated or is terminating the REAL ID driver's license or identification card issued by the prior State pursuant to State law, regulation or procedure.
The verbiage is ambiguous because the US passport book/card is a form of REAL ID:

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/08/273747.htm

The U.S. passport book and the U.S. passport card are REAL ID compliant and are acceptable identification to board domestic flights.
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Old 12-17-2018, 8:15 PM
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The verbiage is ambiguous because the US passport book/card is a form of REAL ID:

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/08/273747.htm

The U.S. passport book and the U.S. passport card are REAL ID compliant and are acceptable identification to board domestic flights.
AFAIK...

It's in reference to State issued REAL DL/ID cards.
^Can only have one valid State issued REAL ID.

US Passport and Passport Card is issued by the Federal Gov, not by a State Gov.
So, it's not included in the restriction.
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Old 12-17-2018, 9:50 PM
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....It's in reference to State issued REAL DL/ID cards.
^Can only have one valid State issued REAL ID.

US Passport and Passport Card is issued by the Federal Gov, not by a State Gov.
So, it's not included in the restriction.
I agree that’s a fair reading of the regulation.
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Is it a fair reading? The word card is defined in the regulation as being issued by the State DMV. Passports are not issued by a State and certainly not by a DMV..

6 CFR 37.3 provides, in part, that:

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Card means either a driver’s license or identification card issued by the State Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) or equivalent State office.

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Old 12-19-2018, 12:52 PM
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? Why do you ask 'is it a fair reading' and then post information that suggests it is, indeed, a fair reading?

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Is it a fair reading?

The word card is defined in the regulation as being issued by the State DMV. Passports are not issued by a State and certainly not by a DMV..

6 CFR 37.3 provides, in part, that:
The reading in question is
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US Passport and Passport Card is issued by the Federal Gov, not by a State Gov.

So, it's not included in the restriction.
In my experience, a 'fair reading' is one that seems consistent with known information and usage.
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