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Old 05-12-2019, 7:24 AM
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If you were to use something like a superlative arms gas block closed all the way off would that make it no longer semi auto and exempt from AW laws? Or would that not be enough and too easy to convert back to count?
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Old 05-12-2019, 7:33 AM
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If you leave the gas tube in place then yes. I would say. remove the gas tube then most say no AW I think for myself it would be gtg but there are others who disagree
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Old 05-12-2019, 7:35 AM
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I have a Adam's arms upper pop the piston out and turn the key off and it would be bolt action but mines featureless any way
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If you were to use something like a superlative arms gas block closed all the way off would that make it no longer semi auto and exempt from AW laws? Or would that not be enough and too easy to convert back to count?
Kinda like having a three position safety and saying that since you don't have it in the full auto position it's not a machine gun...
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Gas blocks are cheap. Say $20 delivered.

Why not thread the gas tube on a new one
Insert a Allen screw - silver solder in place and use that one.
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Old 05-12-2019, 8:00 PM
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Dump the adjustable block and either plug the gas port, remove the gas tube and plug the gas block or just cut the gas tube and crimp it closed. You could also buyca cheapy gas block, thread the hole for the gas tube and red LocTite a set screw in it. No gad tube, no semi auto. Better yet, just go featureless and retain full function. So simple and so cheap to do.
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In addition to blocking/closing the gas port, remove the gas tube/piston.

If all the parts that make it function as a semi-auto are still installed on the firearm, it will be considered a semi-auto.
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Old 05-13-2019, 5:28 AM
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Not looking to remove anything. My build is featureless and I was just curious if that would fly after seeing my gas block could be completely shut off.
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In addition to blocking/closing the gas port, remove the gas tube/piston.

If all the parts that make it function as a semi-auto are still installed on the firearm, it will be considered a semi-auto.
You've lost me here. If you have intentionally modified a firearm to no longer function semi-automatically, and it factually does no longer function semi automatically, I.E., you've installed a gas block with out a gas port. How is it semi-automatic?

If you install a grip fin over the grip it is no longer considered a pistol grip even though the pistol grip is still installed under the grip fin.
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You've lost me here. If you have intentionally modified a firearm to no longer function semi-automatically, and it factually does no longer function semi automatically, I.E., you've installed a gas block with out a gas port. How is it semi-automatic?

If you install a grip fin over the grip it is no longer considered a pistol grip even though the pistol grip is still installed under the grip fin.
That’s what I was thinking. How is it any different than turning a screw to undo a stock. Or to undo a pistol grip fin. Give it a test fire sir.... it’s not semi auto...

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Has anyone tried shooting an AR with no gas block installed and just an exposed gas port hole on the barrel?
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If your build is featureless why dud you even waste the time to ask the question.
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If your build is featureless why dud you even waste the time to ask the question.
My father in law mentioned doing something to his gas block to make it semi auto and I thought why not just put on an adjustable and close it off so it’s easier to put back.
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I have an extra gas tube block; one that stayed in, and one with its gas tube mounted that gets put in when its time to be back to semi-auto...

One of the cal-tarded things that we have to deal with to stay 'compliant' =(
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I believe this all goes back to requiring a tool not normally attached to the rifle to change the configuration.

I think it all started back with NFA in the day for defining an easily detachable butt stock. Every butt stock is removable but if it does not require a tool and gets you under 26" its verboten. A wood Thompson or Uzi removable but stock is verboten but strangely the folding stock is not.

Same logic was used with the bullet button and now for the pregnant guppy pistol grip fins.

Also I would just remove everything. If you need to leave the gas block on reverse it to plug the hole in the barrel, remove the gas tube, remove the key on the carrier, GTG.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:38 PM
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leave the gas block on reverse it to plug the hole in the barrel, remove the gas tube, remove the key on the carrier, GTG.
best idea yet a cheap gasblock slid on backwards would be safer and cheaper those adjustible gasblocks arent cheap
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I believe this all goes back to requiring a tool not normally attached to the rifle to change the configuration.

I think it all started back with NFA in the day for defining an easily detachable butt stock. Every butt stock is removable but if it does not require a tool and gets you under 26" its verboten. A wood Thompson or Uzi removable but stock is verboten but strangely the folding stock is not.

Same logic was used with the bullet button and now for the pregnant guppy pistol grip fins.

Also I would just remove everything. If you need to leave the gas block on reverse it to plug the hole in the barrel, remove the gas tube, remove the key on the carrier, GTG.
And no reason to remove the gas key.
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