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Old 05-11-2019, 9:04 AM
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Would a unloaded pistol in a Hornady lock box back seat floor board and 3 bolt action rifles unloaded in soft cases in the back seat be legal to carry through Calif. All ammo would be in the camper shell locked in it. The good the bad and the ugly please, I did a lot of searching on this and still cant come up with what to do. TIA
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All guns unloaded. Pistols in locked container. Your Hornady lock box is fine for pistols.

Not necessary to lock soft cases on long guns, but I do.
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Long guns do need to be locked if your going through a school zone so keep that in mind.

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Long guns in unlocked soft cases will not exempt you in school zones in any state, of which there are many in CA. Better to keep those in the bed or in a locked case.
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I avoid school zones like the black plague. Thanks again
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If you drive on freeway no way to avoid school zones .
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Avoid any strong winds while in CA as the gun laws will change on you.
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If you drive on freeway no way to avoid school zones .
I have never seen a school near a main HY or Freeway anywhere I have been in my lifetime.
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I have never seen a school near a main HY or Freeway anywhere I have been in my lifetime.
Really, there are at least a few around here I can think of right off the top of my head.
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Really, there are at least a few around here I can think of right off the top of my head.
Putting a school anywhere near a major commercial rout is a huge liability. Can you imagine the insane stuff that would happen if say a RR derailment were to happen. Major HY's, RR's and believe it or not major NG pipelines run along those routs. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, putting a school near a major through-fare but to me it would just be nuts to hang it out that far. We have a school a few blocks from my home and HY 93 runs past it but it is set back at least 1/2 mile from it.
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Never been to socal I guess. There was a map on here with schools circled and it covered a lot of freeways. Remember circle drawn 2,000 feet in diameter.
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Best way to carry guns in California is to be in Arizona when you're doing it.
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I have never seen a school near a main HY or Freeway anywhere I have been in my lifetime.
And now you know the perils of the gun free school zone - you can’t see them. They extend 1000 feet from the extreme outside boundaries of any public, private, or parochial school. Note Private or parochial (Church). Do you see private or church schools when you drive? I doubt it. Like most of us, you probably have no idea where they are even in your own city let alone cities you will drive through.

School Zones - they are invisible.

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My house is within a 1000' of a School.....what do I do?

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Have it in a locked case before leaving the house.

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My house is within a 1000' of a School.....what do I do?

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So do I. Technically in that circumstance, you should never walk out of the house without a gun that is not locked in a case, unless it is a gun on your carry permit.
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Elk hunter, pull your head out of your buttocks long enough to realize that schools are not necessarily built in great locations. For example, Bakersfield high skool has a major railroad running through the middle of the campus. Templeton HS is located between a freeway and railroad. Oxnerd and Carpinteris HS are surrounded by pesticide using agricultural land. You cannot pass through CA without going through a skrool zone.
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Got a good point there.
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Elk hunter, pull your head out of your buttocks long enough to realize that schools are not necessarily built in great locations. For example, Bakersfield high skool has a major railroad running through the middle of the campus. Templeton HS is located between a freeway and railroad. Oxnerd and Carpinteris HS are surrounded by pesticide using agricultural land. You cannot pass through CA without going through a skrool zone.
No chit near ag land, who woulda thunk it. Imagine crop dusters flying right over a school.
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Never been to socal I guess. There was a map on here with schools circled and it covered a lot of freeways. Remember circle drawn 2,000 feet in diameter.
I never lost anything in socal, big sign at the bottom of the grapevine says turn around and I did.
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I frankly never worry about it. My long guns are transported in soft cases and I'll wager I pass through close to half a dozen school zones just going to my local range and I've never seen another member arrive at the range with long guns in locked cases. Hell, driving I-5 north from Sacramento I can think of at least 3-4 schools sitting right next to the interstate you pass by. I'm not likely to change my ways anytime soon. Long guns in soft cases in the camper shell, under the bed in the motorhome or on the overhead bed in the cabover.
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If you drive on freeway no way to avoid school zones .
"Knows or should know about"

Out of towner driving down the freeway will not know about any local schools that are not immediately visible from the roadway, and would not reasonably be expected to know about them.

That is the source of my mixed emotions when someone posts a graphic showing all of the school zones in a particular area on the forum.
I get it that they are A) trying to be helpful and B) trying to show how absurd these laws are, but at the same time, they are providing information that some of us would prefer not to have.
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I have never seen a school near a main HY or Freeway anywhere I have been in my lifetime.
FWIW, here is the actual law:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=626.9.
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.. they are providing information that some of us would prefer not to have.
Thank goodness you don’t read those posts....
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My house is within a 1000' of a School.....what do I do?

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(c) Subdivision (b) does not apply to the possession of a firearm under any of the following circumstances:

(1) Within a place of residence or place of business or on private property, if the place of residence, place of business, or private property is not part of the school grounds and the possession of the firearm is otherwise lawful.

(2) When the firearm is an unloaded pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed on the person and is in a locked container or within the locked trunk of a motor vehicle.
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I put every Unloaded gun (pistols and rifles) back to my trunk (sedan) thats what I do. Again this is a sedan not SUV or pick up. Sedan trunk is a lockbox.
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I have never seen a school near a main HY or Freeway anywhere I have been in my lifetime.
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Putting a school anywhere near a major commercial rout is a huge liability. Can you imagine the insane stuff that would happen if say a RR derailment were to happen. Major HY's, RR's and believe it or not major NG pipelines run along those routs. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, putting a school near a major through-fare but to me it would just be nuts to hang it out that far. We have a school a few blocks from my home and HY 93 runs past it but it is set back at least 1/2 mile from it.
Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Read this:here:
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Nearly 8,000 U.S. public schools lie within 500 feet of highways, truck routes and other roads with significant traffic, according to a joint investigation by the Center for Public Integrity and Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting. That’s about one in every 11 public schools, serving roughly 4.4 million students and spread across every state in the nation. Thousands more private schools and Head Start centers are in the same fix.
Here’s a picture of the El Marino Language School in Culver City. (Apologies for the fuzzy quality). That wide swath is the Interstate 405 through Culver City, which, “...is one of the nation’s busiest highways, with more than 300,000 vehicles speeding, crawling or outright stopped each day on the 10 lanes cutting through this Los Angeles suburb. Yards away sits an elementary school, where students and teachers breathe air tainted by all those tailpipes.”

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Never been to socal I guess. There was a map on here with schools circled and it covered a lot of freeways. Remember circle drawn 2,000 feet in diameter.
Definitely. There's 6 schools, 1 police station and 2 post offices around me, So when open carry was legal, it wasn't really legal.

Must be nice to even be able to drive a mile without driving through a hundred school zones lol
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Thank goodness you don’t read those posts....
What posts? I have images blocked on this site due to the slow load times.
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Based on 626.9 c) 2) you are always safe if any gun is locked in the trunk.

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I have never seen a school near a main HY or Freeway anywhere I have been in my lifetime.
School zones are 1000' beyond the perimiter of the school. Nearly 1/4 mile. Ever travel the 10 through the San Gabriel Valley? I can think of at least 10 schools between East LA and Kellogg Hill.
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Drive I-5 through Stockton and you will pass by at least 12 schools that I can know of off the top of my head, and two of those are County run alternative schools run out of rent strip mall buildings that not many people know of. Then there are at least 3 more private schools I know of to add to that list.

Most of those schools were in place before I-5 was built. In a couple of places the freeway was realigned to bypass the schools as it was originally routed to go directly over the schools. Caltrans rerouted so they would not have to spend the money to rebuild the schools. It was cheaper to use imminent domain to buy out homeowners. I lived in a house next door to a school originally slated for demolition when CalTrans decided to reroute I-5 a couple of blocks to the east to save money.

Highway 99 is in the same situation. You can be sure that LE knows that also and uses it. Stockton PD adds possession of a firearm in a GFSZ every time they can.

You will not see these schools, they are hidden behind the sound walls along the highway.

Many school districts, like mine, also sponsor parents who want to homeschool their children. It lets the district get money for the homeschooled students and the parents can purchase some of their books and other curriculum through the district free of charge using the state money. This makes these residents an official school during the day and another GFSZ that you would not know about but LE certainly does.
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School zones must be posted.

When was the last time you saw a school zone sign on a freeway?
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