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I'd like to know this too... I'm on DROS right now with third gun from Turners... of the other 7 guns I've purchased from three other dealers, it was always just $25 fee...
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I would really like to get a CZ O/U. "Turner's can get them", but if I order one it will always be a special order and if I don't like it, then I was told I would get charged a restocking fee.
I also was also given a price, but then was told that the actual price would be determined once the shotgun was in the warehouse. ?????? No Turner's stocks CZ shotguns. A friend purchased a CZ shotgun from Turners and it took over 4 months to get. He was told 3 weeks and the gun was in stock at CZ. I was told 2 weeks. |
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Yes, I would like to know about the handling fee also. I have asked at the store on the last 8 guns I have paid for but never got a reasonable answer, also, you PM people with the answers to their questions but there are other people waiting for the same answer. I wanted to see a written answer to the question from StichNicklas about why you would not accept C&R + COE to be exempt from the 1 in 30 day wait for handguns. I did not want to clutter up the thread with multiple questions about the same subject.
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Actually that bill would've affected the state of CA. The city of LA has required this for a while and still do.
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Turner's has charged the DROS Dealer Handling ever since the fee was established as a part of the DROS fee structure- at least 25 years ago if not longer. The max fee of $10 is applied to PPT's; all other transactions have had $5 applied. We're kicking around a few ideas including eliminating this charge completely for Calguns contributors ($) and for frequent buyers (by $ spent or by quantity of transactions or both.) of new guns as well as eliminating them nearly outright for Calgunners on PPT's as well on some basis. We'll get this put to bed and let everyone know what we're doing shortly.
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^^^ thanks for the response - its good to know you care about our concerns and are kicking around possible solutions...
Doubtful that you'll have it sorted out before my dros is up (this weekend) - but maybe by next purchase Maybe a $5 voucher towards same day purchase or something?... |
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Anytime a member has a customer service issue, we'll reach out and contact them directly, first via PM, with the aim of being able to contact them by phone, one-on-one. Calguns is such an awesome place, but in the end we really want to treat folks to some direct attention. Based on feedback from the folks we've tried to help, we think they like the personal contact. But we also agree that in the case of Mark's C&R issue or on the question on the DROS dealer fee that we may have more than one member- in some cases a lot more - who are interested in the same answer. Keep in mind, that we're a little new to this and we'll make sure that we do both things on this board- solve individual issues and keep Turner's customers at large better informed. Now to the heart of the C&R issue. We are working with some very good folks (you all know these hard working guys) to get some things cleared up with regards to the exemptions and latitude that is extended to C&R licensees. We hear one thing from one regulatory entity and something a bit different from another. Under the advisement of the folks who are doing some work on this, we won't be commenting further until we hear back from them. But do know that we want to have C&R folks maximize the amount of utility that their license affords them. It's best for them and absolutely it's best for all dealers.
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Chapter V, Article 5, Sec. 55.11 requires the collection of buyer information for ammo sales. Sec. 55.09 prohibits the sale of ammo for the 7 days prior to the 4th of July and New Year's Day.
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2) The final retail price will be set once we take a deposit- there will not be an increase after you pay for it. (We can discuss that when we talk, too.) 3) We took some recent orders on CZ shotguns, we were told they were on the way, and then we were told that someone (CZ? CZ-USA?) had some issue with missing import stampings and the shipment was turned away at customs. We were able to salvage a few sales by turning to some other sources but it became a nightmare. We'll PM you and see if we can make this easier than it seems. Thanks.
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We are carrying the Saiga's that are imported by Arsenal- rifles and shotguns. Contact your nearest Turner's for details on price and availability; we just got some more inventory in, too!
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I was never even told about the 5 dollar fee until I saw it on my receipt when I got home. last week. Not cool Turners. Im thinking you post a turners 5 dollar fee exempt "coupon" on the forum for calguns members.
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If this is true, its FAR from obvious... I go to three different Turners at least 1-3 times per month... never noticed the fee posted.
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They will also try to automatically add a charge for lock (at least they did my last two purchases)
... I always tell them to leave that charge off, ill bring my own lock... yes I know it needs to be 30 days new - that's why I go to Walmart buy the lock, get my gun and return the lock... I suppose I could do that to turners too - somehow that seems like it wouldn't work as easily as it does with Walmart (and there's always something I need from Walmart anyway) |
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I am in the Chino Hills store quite a lot and never in a shirt and tie. I have NEVER been singled out for negative service in that store. If your perception is that you are being treated negatively...well that is your perception. I have never seen anyone in the Chino Hills store receive anything less than 100% courteous service and as I said, I am in that store every week.
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Main question How do your words taste? Because you are now eating your words
I bought a few pistols from you and was venturing into ca legal oll receivers. Everytime I'd look at the crap closed bottom ones, Id ask about del-ton and such, before I'd finish every person would cut me off like a cop not knowing his laws, "those are illegal, grey line BS and we don't sell those here and never will." wow look at all those oll, complete none the less with pictures of high cap mags (tho you sell the 10 rd blocked ones.. I hope!!) wow I hope you can admit when you are wrong! Because you guys were for lack of a better word Di*ks and in this algebraic formula * is = to c Sorry to be blunt, but 4 years ago, and befor obama none the less you would flame me and my basic questions, I was polite respectful and inquiring about a LEGAL product you now seem to carry very heavily. That is all, I will never buy one of your EVIL ILLEGAL BLACK GUNS on the BANNED FIREARM LIST as you would put it! Good luck now that you came around way after all other respectable shops did. |
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All angry ranting aside, I have bought probably 10 guns from Turners......in the past 4 years I've been living in Socal.
Although the wait can be a bit long sometimes, especially on weekends, the employees at Turners have generally been great. I haven't once been criticized for any question. Technically, if a person goes around asking a total stranger, albeit a gun store employee, for legal advice, they are the ignorant one, are they not? I mean, I don't ask my local Autozone employee for advice on how to fight a speeding ticket.... It's refreshing to see a larger store chain here in Southern California supporting a California-based firearms forum. Last edited by Woo; 08-28-2011 at 6:37 PM.. |
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Aside from a few procedural oddities (e.g., not getting the original factory lock or other case candy/parts b/c it's not CA approved, having to give my thumbprint when buying ammo, etc.), I've been pretty happy with Turners: great service, selection, and price. I'm on 3 guns and considering numbers 4, 5, and 6 (I'll be heading over to Turners this afternoon for #4, I hope). The only real complaint continues to be the relatively long lines.
Speaking of long lines, went to Turners on Sunday to buy some ammo on the way to the range. Totally packed. Walked right out and paid the higher prices at the range b/c I didn't want to lose 45 mins or more buying ammo. Maybe some sort of "no questions" line or, even better, call-in or online order with store pickup option, would be VERY helpful in these types of run-in and grab something type of situations (which, currently, isn't really an option b/c of the long wait times). edit: the thumbprint thing got answered above. Stupid LA. Last edited by JoeinLA; 08-29-2011 at 11:51 AM.. |
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I never asked for legal advice, I talked to the lovely people at del-ton about their guns and mainly their lowers. They said to go to any ffl and they would middle man them or order them that striped lowers (OLL) are not illegal in ANY state and definitely not in CA.
I didn't ask opinion or for "advice" but to order me a gun (yes I bought 3 that year from them) xd45 10/22 and a sig. They would cut me off and badger me about illegal weapons, that they are now selling. When I tried to tell them they were not illegal they told me I was asking for trouble and "stupid" now they stock ALOT of the brands I had to drive miles to get. I just would have felt better if they said, they didn't want the trouble and attention or something, but to badger me call me ignorant and stupid to laws, I stopped shopping there. Like I said I spent over 1000$ in guns and was expected them to at least word it a little better. Trust me this was 4-5 years ago, but I still had to say something. The post title was "Questions you would like to ask Turners" Sorry to offend, I mean ban me for being honest most of my advice for Ca legal ARs advice came from this site and their store bad mouthed it. Now they are all pro ak/ar and calguns... I was OG calguns they are the fresh faces that need to earn their stripes! This will probably be my last post anyways. Last edited by irierider; 08-29-2011 at 7:00 PM.. |
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And in 2007, 2008, and even 2011, the same thing would happen at many gun shops.
It's not unique to Turner's. The FFL has the option to refuse to participate in a sale that they do not KNOW is 100% legal. And why would you go to "$125 FFL Transfer Fee + DROS" Turner's anyways?
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First off, I like Turners and have had nothing but good experiences in their stores. If I had to complain about anything it would be that the Kerney Mesa store is so small and cramped compared to some of their other stores, like Corona.
The big question I have is why do you stock so little reloading equipment? It really isn't just you, but there is virtually nowhere in San Diego that has a considerable supply of equipment. I went to 6 different stores (Turners included) looking for a new tumbler and found nothing. I ended up finding one at Faith in Temecula. Is there no money/interest in it? Are the SD county regulations prohibitive to reloading supplies? I'm just surprised because aside from a few shell plates and a select few bullets there is very little in your store and it would be nice to be able to pick up things like de-capper pins, dies, etc when I am in there. I don't mind mail order but I would much rather support a local business who supports the community than mail order, even if it costs me $10 more. |
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$5 Handling fee?
I just bought a Maverick 88 that was on sale for $209 from the Fountain Valley store and noticed when I got home that a $5 handling fee was charged.
Im not one to complain but whats the deal with this fee? Turners is a gun store right? So why charge a handling fee for something that the store already does which is sell guns? There was no special order or anything. That is like Mc Donalds charging $5 for walking to the back to get a burger and charging a "burger handling fee". What is the deal? I really like Turners but this is the first time I have ever been charged this fee from a gun shop. Thanks
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