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Old 05-11-2016, 11:13 AM
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Does anyone know why there has been a shortage of Scar rifles at LGS here in California ?
I believe there's no such shortage if there's a will there's a way I've seen more in volume at a given time; But I haven't ever not seen one for sale. You can buy them from any state, get a middle man transfer to make it CA Compliant and ship to a FFL near you for your end of the work.
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I want to replace the muzzle brake on my Scar 16.

Can someone please point me in the right direction? Couldn't find a good guide or video on youtube on how to remove it.
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You take a wrench to it and it unscrews off the barrel.
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It doesn't need to be on a vice? Like AR uppers?
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It doesn't need to be on a vice? Like AR uppers?
It should be. You can buy a barrel vice block from Brownell's and some lead barrel vice shims. Be aware that if the barrel slips it will really gouge it.

Don't try to remove it without clamping the barrel. You could seriously mess up the rifle if you do.
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It's a bugger I tried. It must really be baked on there.



After some light and quick scrubbing with a nylon brush and Ballistol, the late hours of the night got the best of me. So I'll be going at it again today.
Oh, in the knurling. You are out of luck. Wear it as a badge of honor, I would.

BTW I really like that color Atlas. Mine is just plain old black.
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Yeah, I really like my FDE Atlas as well.
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The shortage has been nationwide but from the looks of the posts on the scar fb group shops all over are starting to finally get them back in. Looks like mostly 17s right now though.
Yap, I've noticed Riflegear has them in stock every week... they sell out pretty quickly... but as of this exact moment, they still have 3 in stock and that's been the case for an hour now.

Like you said, they're starting to come back in.

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A redesigned SCAR 17 will be out next year addressing all the feedback from the current version.

The current version needs $1500 worth of upgrades to be all it can be. That should be eliminated on the next version.
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It should be. You can buy a barrel vice block from Brownell's and some lead barrel vice shims. Be aware that if the barrel slips it will really gouge it.



Don't try to remove it without clamping the barrel. You could seriously mess up the rifle if you do.


Even better is to just loosen the 6 barrel screws, remove the barrel and put the barrel extension in some smooth vice jaws.
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A redesigned SCAR 17 will be out next year addressing all the feedback from the current version.

The current version needs $1500 worth of upgrades to be all it can be. That should be eliminated on the next version.
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A redesigned SCAR 17 will be out next year addressing all the feedback from the current version.

The current version needs $1500 worth of upgrades to be all it can be. That should be eliminated on the next version.
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A redesigned SCAR 17 will be out next year addressing all the feedback from the current version.

The current version needs $1500 worth of upgrades to be all it can be. That should be eliminated on the next version.
Do you have a source for your assertion?

BTW - The SCAR does not need any upgrades. People add those because they think they have too, but that's crap. The grip, sling points, stock, compensator, rails, and even the trigger do not "need" to be replaced, it all a matter of what someone with too much money thinks they need. The truth is that many of these folks spend way more time and money on accessories than they do actually shooting and buying ammo.

I've got 4 SCARs pictured in the previous pages. The dirty little truth is; I can shoot the same groups (actually slightly better) with the 17 that I never bothered to install the Super SCAR trigger into than I can with my Geissele equipped 17 with NightForce 2.5-10. Its easier with the Geissele trigger, but it can be done. The only changes I made to that rifle are the sling points, a grip, and Aimpoint T2 with Aimpoint 3X magnifier.

You don't need to make any changes for SCARs to shoot well and be an excellent battle rifle. I am sure there are a lot of guys that have added all that stuff that I can outshoot. Bench or free hand.

I'd love to see a new model, but we may not be able to buy one next year...who knows what the commies in California government will get Brown to sign.
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Nice rifle.

Were you actually able to get the EOTech magnifier to work properly with the MRO? Because I have an Aimpoint 3X magnifier and an EOTech Gen2 magnifier that really don't provide a good sight picture with the MRO on my SCAR 16.
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Do you have a source for your assertion?

BTW - The SCAR does not need any upgrades. People add those because they think they have too, but that's crap. The grip, sling points, stock, compensator, rails, and even the trigger do not "need" to be replaced, it all a matter of what someone with too much money thinks they need. The truth is that many of these folks spend way more time and money on accessories than they do actually shooting and buying ammo.

I've got 4 SCARs pictured in the previous pages. The dirty little truth is; I can shoot the same groups (actually slightly better) with my 17 that I never bothered to install the Super SCAR trigger into and than I can with my Geissele equipped 17 with NightForce 2.5-10. Its easier with the Geissele trigger, but it can be done. The only changes I made to that rifle are the sling points, a grip, and Aimpoint T2 with Aimpoint 3X magnifier.

You don't need to make any changes for SCARs too shoot well and be excellent battle rifles. I am sure there are a lot of guys that have added all that stuff that I can outshoot. Bench or free hand.

I'd love to see a new model, but we may not be able to buy one next year...who knows what the commies in California government will get Brown to sign.
Agreed, and if there were any "improvements," I would guess an updated trigger module to accept a wider variety of magazines.

Aside from that, I don't think FN is working on anything. As is, the rifle is nearly perfect, IMO.
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I swapped out the pws today for the AAC black out and the rifle feels lighter and better balanced with just that quick swap. Can't wait to shoot it tomorrow!
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[QUOTE=ScottsBad;18156364]Nice rifle.

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Even better is to just loosen the 6 barrel screws, remove the barrel and put the barrel extension in some smooth vice jaws.
You know, I've suggested this before, but I'm not sure a lot of people could get it clamped properly. I think a vice block made for the barrel extension end of a SCAR barrel would be a good product.
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Thanks! Yes it works very well for me in terms of sight picture, check weld, and optic to magnifier alignment. Running the Scalarworks Absolute Co-witness mount, and G33 at same height (without 1/3 co-witness spacer). Not sure if that answers your question.

Run it as a fighting rifle 80% of the time with just the MRO and clip on the magnifier when going out to longer distances.

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No, I'm up North but thanks. That's good to hear, I was expecting you'd have problems. They must have changed a few things since the G23 I have.
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You know, I've suggested this before, but I'm not sure a lot of people could get it clamped properly. I think a vice block made for the barrel extension end of a SCAR barrel would be a good product.
So while drinking a beer in my living room i took two wrenches, one on the brake and the other on the lock nut. Just hold the muzzle brake in place and hold the rifle between your legs and lossen the lock nut. It doesn't take much. I then installed the AAC blackout

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So while drinking a beer in my living room i took two wrenches, one on the brake and the other on the lock nut. Just hold the muzzle brake in place and hold the rifle between your legs and lossen the lock nut. It doesn't take much. I then installed the AAC blackout

Chew, 17 looks good in all the pictures! Your dog looks awesome to; he's like "It's to get a Geissele bro" ahaha! Looks like Chabot am I right? I took pic at Chabot as well, also do you notice a difference with the flash hider vs the comp?

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The 16 uses a crush washer instead of a lock nut.
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Chew, 17 looks good in all the pictures! Your dog looks awesome to; he's like "It's to get a Geissele bro" ahaha! Looks like Chabot am I right? I took pic at Chabot as well, also do you notice a difference with the flash hider vs the comp?
Thanks ! I'm lookin for the best deal on the geisselle as we speak ! 280$ is the best deal I can find ... I noticed the flash hider has a more lateral pop when firing compared to the more straight back recoil of the comp
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Thanks ! I'm lookin for the best deal on the geisselle as we speak ! 280$ is the best deal I can find ... I noticed the flash hider has a more lateral pop when firing compared to the more straight back recoil of the comp
Thanks that's great feedback! So it's noticeable to point you can describe it like you did but is it still negligible when it comes to follow shots or getting back on target?
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Yeah it's not bad. I just got a firmer grip on her and held her nose down. I really like the mk17 look so Ima run the AAC for now but I might get a sure fire for her down the road
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So while drinking a beer in my living room i took two wrenches, one on the brake and the other on the lock nut. Just hold the muzzle brake in place and hold the rifle between your legs and lossen the lock nut. It doesn't take much. I then installed the AAC blackout
I believe the post was about a SCAR 16 which uses a crush washer not a lock nut. See post #202.

EDIT: Oh, Tonyxcom caught that already. Good man.
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Agreed, and if there were any "improvements," I would guess an updated trigger module to accept a wider variety of magazines.

Aside from that, I don't think FN is working on anything. As is, the rifle is nearly perfect, IMO.
If they could find a way to lengthen the front rails 3 inches just past the gas block would be nice. But if it changes the balance of the rifle much...forget it.

I don't care about using Pmags or DPMS mags, but a better trigger would be nice.
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If they could find a way to lengthen the front rails 3 inches just past the gas block would be nice. But if it changes the balance of the rifle much...forget it.

I don't care about using Pmags or DPMS mags, but a better trigger would be nice.
I was able to handle one with an MREX system mounted, and in my opinion, it did change the balance substantially, but then again, I don't use full extension of my support arm, so my opinion is subjective. Personally, to offset the balance, I would have to shorten the barrel.

Beyond the ergonomic standpoint, how end-users mount 4oz torches and 8oz PEQ's forward of the gas block, completely unbalancing the rifle, exceeds my comprehension. In my opinion, there's nothing worse, or more fatiguing, than a front-heavy rifle.

As for the proprietary magazines, they don't bother me either, but good grief, they are definitely heavy.
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So while drinking a beer in my living room i took two wrenches, one on the brake and the other on the lock nut. Just hold the muzzle brake in place and hold the rifle between your legs and lossen the lock nut. It doesn't take much. I then installed the AAC blackout
Chewy, I was almost certain that I was the only guy on the planet who runs a stand-alone RMR.
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Chewy, I was almost certain that I was the only guy on the planet who runs a stand-alone RMR.
Does this count?

Ran it with my 17 in a class recently. After a bunch of rounds, two/one handed shooting or malfunction drills and a whole lot of fun it looked like this.



Holster marks are only on the gas fouling and RMR was used and abused on some nearby barriers(wood and concrete) along with the holster itself.
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How many of you guys are planning on buying the FN 20" barrel assembly? I have that on my list. I want to have the foam cut out on my Pelican case for it so I can do the barrel swap at the range for long distance shooting.
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I just made my own barrel with a krieger stainless blank.

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For accuracy the stainless barrel is nice and also that you can get a more optimal twist rate. Kreiger can do all the work to the barrel like profiling, cutting the threads, but will it cost and be less trouble to buy the FN 20" barrel assembly? K.hosey9 do you plan on switching between the 16 and 20" barrels? Does the gas block have to different to work with the 20"?
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