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Concealed Carry Holsters, Equipment and Accessories Questions, answers and discussions regarding equipment specific to concealed carry. |
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How to carry with a backpack?
When i ride my motorcycle or mountain bike, IWB carry is uncomfortable or impractical. I typically have a backpack or camelback. I am looking for a small case / holster that would fully enclose my weapon, so as to be fully concealed, and attach to one of the shoulder straps, so it would hang at my side or across my chest and be readily accessible. Similar to drawing from a shoulder rig, I guess. Naturally it needs to hold the weapon in such a position that the muzzle is not pointing any my body, etc. I also want the trigger to be protected.
Any suggestions? I have used the Disse sling pack (from Springfield Armory) for carry while hiking, and have been happy with that. But the closure of the compartment for your weapon is velcro only, i would not rely on that on the moto. Sometimes we travel very rough terrain. |
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Thanks. I already have a pack that works for motorcycling (hydration, tools, etc.) and one for MTBing. Plus in the rough terrain a "sling" style will move around too much. That's why I am looking for a good option, probably something with some MOLLE attachments, that I can add to the front of my pack.
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There are sensitivities to the ability to access that weapon that need to be discussed in shoulder rig. There is also the risk of injury from the movement and orientation of the weapon well sliding or tumbling as the result of an accident. These are factors that need to be considered. How you currently carry when off the bike is a question as well, as are the type of bike cruiser vs sport bike, and style of dress, jeans vs. leathers. So to truly help you I need more information.
Now with that said, a Belly Band may be an affordable solution for you. Well on the bike assuming close fitting leathers, the gun could be carried as a shoulder rig, once at your destination well removing the riding gear, the gun could be spun around and the belly band located as designed IWB. Advantage is that most belly bands also include a place for a pair of mags. Our basic unit costs $18.99 well our law enforcement rigs go as high as $65. There are technical and tactical considerations I would prefer to discuss on the phone or in person, and if you wanted to stop in when we reopen on the 25th, at our Mission Viejo location you could try one out and see if works for you. Stay safe. |
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Ditto. Find some way to keep the gun on your person at all times. SmartCarry. Belly Band. Appendix carry. Ankle rig. Whatever. You don't want to have to arrive at your destination and have to doff the pack and then have to move the weapon from off-body to on your person.
Where there's a will, there's a way. Of course you'll end up with a drawer full of holsters (I'm up to 23) but you can find a way to carry on your body through any circumstances if you do some trial and error.
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Check out the Vertx Gamut pack if you must off-body carry. It has a really nice setup for concealed carry and is pretty fast once you get the hang of it.
https://youtu.be/EJQU7EKTYgg Last edited by cc12floz; 11-15-2016 at 3:16 PM.. Reason: added video |
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OP, like you I've also spent considerable time trying to find a good solution for this. Same scenario - camelbak or small (or sometimes large) backpack. Here's what I've tried, and the pro and cons of each:
HillPeopleGear kit bags (linked by others above) - This is a great solution if you don't care that everyone knows you have a pistol on your chest. Subtle, it is not. But it's effective and does what it does quite well. For hiking/backpacking, I like it because I don't care that passers-by know I have a pistol. It's not unexpected in the backcountry, but in the city that's a different story. Specialty CCW backpacks - The obvious downside is that you don't get to wear the exact backpack you like, you have to choose from a small assortment of CCW "quick access" backpacks. The less obvious downside, but becomes quite apparent when you watch the video posted above, is that it'll be near impossible to draw your weapon during a fight. If you've got time and space, then sure it's great. But if someone has you pinned to the ground and punching your face, you're going to have to call a timeout so you can take off your backpack and reach inside it. Doing that with your heart racing and your hands trembling is going to be a nightmare. The key point here is that you don't want to have to take your backpack off to get to your weapon. Standard IWB carry - This usually works fine for me unless my backpack has a waist strap, which incidentally nearly all my backpacks do. So this hardly ever works for me. Pocket carry - Most of the time, this solution works the best for me. I use a MIC holster to cover the trigger, tie the lanyard to my belt, and put the pistol in my front zipper pocket. Downside is you have to unzip your pocket to access the pistol, but the same goes for most of the other options already listed here. Benefit is that your pistol is in roughly the same location as it usually is with IWB carry, it's safely secured, and you don't have to relocate it when you take off your backpack after riding. I wouldn't do this unless your pocket has a zipper, especially while riding. Belly-band - Grantar2's suggestion is worth a try (as are all of his suggestions in general, this guy is THE expert on CCW carrying methods), I haven't tried it yet myself so I can't really comment yet. Only possible downside I see is that accessibility might be a challenge, grabbing a pistol from up high under your shirt isn't too easy. But with the right clothing it could certainly work. Also belly-bands sometimes have to contend with gravity, so depending on your torso shape and other factors, your shoulder rig might inadvertently turn into an IWB rig after a short time. For spare magazines, I either carry them in a cargo pant pocket, or even better is putting it in a multitool or GPS pouch on your shoulder strap.
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5.11 has some nice options for backpack carry. Their velcro holster works well
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Holster for Riding...
I use this a lot:
http://www.desantisholster.com/ROAD-RUNNER I wear that and then put on my Camelbak or Blackhawk Hydrastorm backpack. I like the X-style shoulder straps. It's easy to wear and it allows you right or left hand draw. Plus, it holds a cell phone, keys, light, multitool, ETC. I don't like attaching anything to to the straps of the backpack because what if you need to take off the pack to get to something inside your pack, or what if you need to ditch the pack completely? You still want your weapon easily accessible. Yeah, it means more straps, but that is easy to deal with. I wear this a lot while backpacking if I am in areas with predators: http://www.blackhawk.com/Products/Ho...l-Harness.aspx It keeps the weapon close to the body. You can wear it under a light jacket or concealment garment if need be. Under a vest or something, you can't spot it. It hangs comfortably. If you're more of a purist: http://www.pacificcanvasandleather.c....php?ItemID=91 Here's another option that I love: http://www.detroitholster.com/store/...al-carry-vest/ It looks like a normal men's vest: http://addersystem.com/ It is ambidextrous and takes either MOLLE or velcro holsters. I prefer velcro holsters. It works best with mid-sized or compact guns. I like that vest for days when I am going to be on long road trips. It allows for a quick presentation, even when seated. The vest runs big and is sized for wearing other layers. It's comfortable. You have to be a little careful on what holster you use in the pockets because they can tend to bulge a little. I have found that these work well: https://www.crossbreedholsters.com/P...odular-Holster Stick to a compact gun, and it conceals well. I think it'd be comfortable while motorcycling. Those are just my $0.02 on the topic. Cheers! -- 1911ShooterPhil
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I like the 5-11 bags, kydex holster Velcro'd in place. Impossible for me to carry on body sometimes. Certainly not the fastest draw but better then nothing
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Another vote for the Hill People Gear chest rigs. I have two, and use them when I hike, hunt, bicycle, or ride a moto. In all those situations, it is very convenient, and not out of place. Cruising around a city, they are quite conspicuous, but that's not the intended purpose. For what they are designed for, they're great. Stay out of cities. Careful though, Hill People Gear is very well made, and highly addictive.
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https://gunfightersinc.com/products/...chest-holster/
I saw this a while back and plan to look into it further (mostly for MTB once I get my CCW.) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I found this the other day and love it in my EDC/Get Home Bag (I don't have a CCW, so this stays locked in my vehicle), but I think it'll help you with the potential issue of bouncing around, etc, with whatever bag you go with.
https://greyman-tactical.com/ They have different sizes but you can cut to fit if need be. |
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Recently a motorcycle gear company called Klim introduced an interesting solution. Their Arsenal Vest is for off road, dual sport and adventure riding. It is a vest with cargo pockets that distribute the weight of water, tools, gear, supplies, etc. across the back and chest.
What is cool is that they actually designed a holster into the chest pockets. I think this is pretty much what I was looking for, for motorcycle use. http://www.klim.com/Arsenal-Vest-4054-000 |
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Good ol Sneaky Petes!
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plus its very low profile politically. IIRC there was one that also worked good as over the shoulder back OR front sling for a total of 3 carry modes. IIRC it was kinda pricy at $70 but sounded first class.
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