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Alright, I edited the business card again to reflect this.
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This ^^ is a great idea.
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Nice job boxbro.
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A more "permanent" version (magnets, decals) should be available early 2010.
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Have there been recent sucessful prosecutions of OLL's or other weapons? And, once prosecuted, can you go back and request a trial based on incorrect inturpretations of the law? Will you conviction be expunged?
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Of "other weapons"? Sure people have all sorts of illegal guns including AWs and people do get popped/convicted for those - and there's nothing we can do. Quote:
But if somebody has a legal firearm used in a legal way and is somehow charged, we will help him.
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And now with toll free goodness:
Please only use the 800 number if you're in trouble. In state calls are cheap otherwise -Gene Edited to update this with the correct 800 number as the old one had to be abandoned.
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You want me to add that to the card ?
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Is 1-800-CGF-GUNS available?
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Don't worry, I only passed it out in Vegas.
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Done!
You should add it to the OP.
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Looks good - you can probably remove my email address and screen name, since we've got the 800 number working (and that is faster)!!!
Once you do that - I'll link it to the OP. |
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Done!
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What are the limits on this offer? And by that I mean it's fairly clear from comments in this thread that if you get in trouble for a legally-configured OLL, that's within the scope of the type of cases CGF is asking us to contact them with. But what about cases where, for example, someone breaks into your house and you shoot them in self-defense using a legally owned, legally configured firearm? If the local DA comes after you for unlawful use of deadly force, is that a "Contact CGF" situation too?
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First of all, let me be clear. You can not depend on CGF to neccessarily defend you. We are not an insurance policy and we are certainly not your insurance policy.
I doubt we'd defend self defense shootings. We stand ready to help arrange such things, but they are very personal, fact specific, and outside our scope. The heart of what we defend are cases where the state or locality is trying to prosecute someone for a crime that isn't a crime. A self defense shooting shouldn't be a crime and shouldn't be a prosecution. If it does become a prosecution, we can certainly point you in the right direction but it is not our mission to take over financially you when you have to make that sort of call. -Gene
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"No, officer, I did not shoot the Big Guy with my proton pack until he started rampaging through the city. No, my proton pack is not an illegal assault weapon -- you'll notice that there is no collapsible stock, pistol grip, or flash hider, and the power source is not detachable from the neutrona wand."
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This is true. At the very least, they'll remind you to STFU until they or someone you know can track down an attorney for you.
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We'll help most anyone (I'm sure there are some rare and infamous crimes we wouldn't touch) get the firearms part of their defense right. What we can't guarantee is that we'd pay for the costs of the defense beyond making available "the right people" to help your attorney out. If there is no color, no shots fired, gun was legal and what you were up to generally doesn't have moral turpitude - we'll generally pick up the tab too. As an example - speeding ticket - no problem. Controlled substances, actually selling firearms without a license beyond the exemptions are examples of likely problems for us to fully back. Until Incorporation - most UOC is a problem for us to fully back. -Gene
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Thanks for reaching out Oaklander. Its always refreshing to know guys like you are on our side, however, I hope I never have to contact CGF for any reason other than donations and positive feedback.
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Expect to receive a call from me Monday morning. I want to have a go-to lawyer when I start exercising my right to open carry.
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-Gene
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PM me when and if the number needs changing again.
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Awesome - thanks!
FIRST POST UPDATED WITH REVISED CARD - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...3&d=1261674969 Last edited by oaklander; 12-24-2009 at 12:03 PM.. |
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