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Old 08-11-2017, 2:13 PM
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Interesting video. Seems like some good training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoptWvHFiXQ

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Old 08-11-2017, 5:25 PM
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Just a question. In a survival/shtf situation, how would this help without the proper facilities to treat the wounded?
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Just a question. In a survival/shtf situation, how would this help without the proper facilities to treat the wounded?
Dyou watch the video? It'd help you at least get out of the fight alive. That's what's important. If you can't survive first contact then it won't matter how well stocked you are of canned goods..
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Dyou watch the video? It'd help you at least get out of the fight alive. That's what's important. If you can't survive first contact then it won't matter how well stocked you are of canned goods..
OTOH, there's a block of injuries (and illnesses) with a long term survival chance of near zero without current 'modern medicine'.

It's tough when you have to say 'there's nothing more I can do - things look pretty bad'.
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Triage is something to remember.

Without availability of timely ALS the chances of surviving a severe enough wound diminishes IMO.

This training would seem more valuable to the logisticly/medically supported team or contractor work.

Teotwawki would require a more American civil war era medical approach IMO. *If only after 6 mos to a year as med supplies get used, lost, bartered or stolen.
That's my wag anyway.

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Teotwawki would require a more American civil war era medical approach IMO. *If only after 6 mos to a year as med supplies get used, lost, bartered or stolen.
That's my wag anyway.
This is a good way of looking at it in my opinion. For a shtf scenario we can't rely on modern medicine for long. Need to be able to survive the fight firstly. Secondly is to know how to provide long term medical care. Looking at how this has been done in the past by explorers, or war torn countries could be a good start.
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This is a good way of looking at it in my opinion. For a shtf scenario we can't rely on modern medicine for long. Need to be able to survive the fight firstly. Secondly is to know how to provide long term medical care. Looking at how this has been done in the past by explorers, or war torn countries could be a good start.
Following this line of thought, does anyone know of any good books or sources or information on "disaster, DIY" medical care? Something that would apply to the average person with little or no supply and support beyond bartering, scavenging, scamming, stealing.

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Following this line of thought, does anyone know of any good books or sources or information on "disaster, DIY" medical care? Something that would apply to the average person with little or no supply and support beyond bartering, scavenging, scamming, stealing.

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Here is a free e-book

"Where there is no doctor"

http://www.biospiritual-energy-heali...c-book2010.pdf

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This handbook has been written primarily for those who live far from medical
centers, in places where there is no doctor. But even where there are doctors, people
can and should take the lead in their own health care. So this book is for everyone who
cares. It has been written in the belief that:

1. Health care is not only everyone’s right, but everyone’s responsibility.

2. Informed self-care should be the main goal of any health program
or activity.

3. Ordinary people provided with clear, simple information can prevent and
treat most common health problems in their own homes—earlier, cheaper,
and often better than can doctors.

4. Medical knowledge should not be the guarded secret of a select few, but
should be freely shared by everyone.

5. People with little formal education can be trusted as much as those with a
lot. And they are just as smart.

6. Basic health care should not be delivered, but encouraged.

Clearly, a part of informed self-care is knowing one’s own limits. Therefore
guidelines are included not only for what to do, but for when to seek help. The book
points out those cases when it is important to see or get advice from a health worker
or doctor. But because doctors or health workers are not always nearby, the book also
suggests what to do in the meantime—even for very serious problems.
Publisher's site with other medical info
http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/

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Following this line of thought, does anyone know of any good books or sources or information on "disaster, DIY" medical care? Something that would apply to the average person with little or no supply and support beyond bartering, scavenging, scamming, stealing.

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Start here Where There Is No Doctor

...and here --> Where There Is No Dentist > referenced on the same link above.

Other books will follow from your searches here on the forum,but start with these 2.
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Seems pretty cool but tbh IDK how comfortable I'd feel with random class participants behind me & live rounds chambered, especially crossing over somewhat rough terrain.
The trauma wound dressing parts seem very useful however. Anyone taken this class?
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Seems pretty cool but tbh IDK how comfortable I'd feel with random class participants behind me & live rounds chambered, especially crossing over somewhat rough terrain.
The trauma wound dressing parts seem very useful however. Anyone taken this class?
I agree, some sort of simunitions training rounds instead.
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Just did a quick search and found https://www.researchgate.net/publica...essons_Learned and https://www.researchgate.net/publica...nd_the_Problem
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