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Old 06-07-2019, 8:30 AM
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I did send it back to them, 3 times. Still hit or miss. Going to use the lower for a 308 build and possibly get the VR80.
Buddy on sale RIGHT NOW

https://www.turners.com/rock-island-...-12-gau-715647
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:42 AM
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Ack!

Resisting urges to run down to Turners and plunk down cash on one.

Last year I almost bought the XTR and Iím glad I held off.

Been watching over the last few years, and it seems like the Turks Come out with a different model of 12 gauge that is AR15ish each year.

This one looks like it might be a winner though.

I have mixed feelings about giving the turks money, but I need something to shoot in my local fun shoots and may do some three gun.

Was thinking about a Stoeger, but I prefer Detachable magazine.

Even if that means cracked open fixed mag style.

My reservations, besides the aforementioned fact that the gun is Turkish, is number one reliability, and number two durability.

But apparently this gun is actually a Derya Mk12, Which is great because itís been out longer so we can see some older reviews.

First Iíll post up some reviews for this this actual model from rock island.
There are actually a boatload of reviews on this gun which is nice, these are only a couple:

https://youtu.be/1LSbmIuIL9w

https://youtu.be/iD3Nyj2B0l0


Here are some older reviews on the Derya Mk12, and Iím liking what Iím seeing.

Caution -Canadian content!:

https://youtu.be/Xoe6SQGsSsE

https://youtu.be/mYuz_G3gRtI

https://youtu.be/MilWS57DinE

There are a bunch more Canadian reviews if you look.

How about some IPSC competition in Finland with the gun-including some modified parts like a comp:

https://youtu.be/tQcwLpF9u0s

https://youtu.be/WiRyvBLcwJg

If durability is there-concerning engineering of parts and hardness etc.-this gun is looking like a winner.

I would eventually put a proper pistol grip and fix stock on it but the thumbhole set up actually doesnít look like it be that uncomfortable.

Iím currently running a kingpin on A.R. pistol with an AR mag lock, and will be watching this thread to see how the juggernaut set up works

Curious if the kingpin might work as well there are a few different models.
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Has anybody picked up any of the nine round magazines yet?

It looks like theyíre available after market although maybe out of stock.
Are they available from the factory as well and nine round magazine?
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Dumb question but are 9 rd mags legal for this set up in Kali ? This is on sale again at Turners.

9 rd mags are really selling point for me.
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Dumb question but are 9 rd mags legal for this set up in Kali ? This is on sale again at Turners.

9 rd mags are really selling point for me.
Since they are not considered large capacity magazines; they are legal to import, make, transfer, and possess in CA.

CA assault weapons laws do not limit the capacity of a fixed magazine on a shotgun.
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Since they are not considered large capacity magazines; they are legal to import, make, transfer, and possess in CA.

CA assault weapons laws do not limit the capacity of a fixed magazine on a shotgun.
Thanks I get confused about the shotgun law and being this one is imported I thought it made a difference. Sometime back I wanted to extend the tube on a 20g I used to own and someone was saying it was n't legal because it was imported and I had to change out parts.

ETA: I do understand the fixed mag part is why this is legal ?
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Thanks I get confused about the shotgun law and being this one is imported I thought it made a difference. Sometime back I wanted to extend the tube on a 20g I used to own and someone was saying it was n't legal because it was imported and I had to change out parts.

ETA: I do understand the fixed mag part is why this is legal ?
Federal laws/regulations limits the magazine capacity of imported shotguns to 5 rounds.
If you want to legally increase the capacity to greater than 5 rounds, then the shotgun can not have more than 10 foreign made parts.
Not complying with the parts counts violates Federal laws and has no bearing on CA laws.

CA laws/regulations only requires the magazine on semi-auto shotguns to be fixed in such a manner that it can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or it is permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.
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Since they are not considered large capacity magazines; they are legal to import, make, transfer, and possess in CA.

CA assault weapons laws do not limit the capacity of a fixed magazine on a shotgun.
I was like what?

Checking older posts on this site -everybody’s always saying even in the tubular mag -which is of course fixed -10 rounds max.

Looks like that is wrong.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2

“A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock.
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
"Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.
The following definitions shall apply under this section:
"Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
"Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.”

It’s a little harder to see because my copy and paste does not show the governments number and letter sections but the capacity to except 10 rounds definition is really being applied to the pistol and rifle portion of the assault weapons laws that precede(I omitted that part)-not shotgun. It just happens to be posted after the shotgun definition so it kind of makes it look like it applies to the shotguns but it doesn’t does it?
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Thanks Quiet , like I said confusing lol.
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I was like what?

Checking older posts on this site -everybody’s always saying even in the tubular mag -which is of course fixed -10 rounds max.

Looks like that is wrong.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2

“A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock.
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
"Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.
The following definitions shall apply under this section:
"Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
"Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.”

It’s a little harder to see because my copy and paste does not show the governments number and letter sections but the capacity to except 10 rounds definition is really being applied to the pistol and rifle portion of the assault weapons laws that precede(I omitted that part)-not shotgun. It just happens to be posted after the shotgun definition so it kind of makes it look like it applies to the shotguns but it doesn’t does it?
Two separate issues.

1. CA assault weapons laws.
These CA laws does not limit the magazine capacity for shotguns.

2. CA large capacity magazine laws.
These CA laws prohibits the importing, making, and transfer of all magazines that have a capacity of greater than 10 rounds.
These CA laws applies to semi-auto shotguns, bolt-action shotguns, pump-action shotguns, and lever-action shotguns that do not have fixed tubular magazines.
These CA laws does not apply to fixed tubular magazines on lever-action shotguns.

The CA large capacity magazine laws is the reason why it is CA illegal to increase the capacity of a fixed magazine on a semi-auto shotgun or bolt-action shotgun or pump-action shotgun to be greater than 10 rounds, after 12-31-2000.
^It's considered illegal manufacturing of a large capacity magazine.
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Old 06-07-2019, 1:27 PM
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I have 2 of the nine rouders, all good
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[QUOTE=Quiet;23083716]Two separate issues.

1. CA assault weapons laws.
These CA laws does not limit the magazine capacity for shotguns.

2. CA large capacity magazine laws.
These CA laws prohibits the importing, making, and transfer of all magazines that have a capacity of greater than 10 rounds.
These CA laws applies to semi-auto shotguns, bolt-action shotguns, pump-action shotguns, and lever-action shotguns that do not have fixed tubular magazines.
These CA laws does not apply to fixed tubular magazines on lever-action shotguns.

The CA large capacity magazine laws is the reason why it is CA illegal to increase the capacity of a fixed magazine on a semi-auto shotgun or bolt-action shotgun or pump-action shotgun to be greater than 10 rounds, after 12-31-2000.
^It's considered illegal manufacturing of a large capacity magazine.[/QU


Right, as of today,in this state, I cannot import ,manufacture, or purchase said 12 gauge magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, but if I already had it -I could legally lock it in this ďfixedĒ mag shotgun we are talking about.
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correct and the VR80 from turners has the Hogue freedom fighter fixed mag kit installed
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After looking at the only "plus size (LOL)" mag I could find on this(19 rounder pictured below),I think I'll stick with the 5's and 9's if I pick one of these boomsticks.

Ya might poke out an eye or somethin' with this one:

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I have 2 of the nine rouders, all good
Who made your nine rounders and where did you buy them from?
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Who made your nine rounders and where did you buy them from?
I also have have a 9rd mag. They are factory mags.

You can check ebay or buy from AdvancedTactical.com

They are pricy though, come to about $50+ shipped from either site. They are heavy, so it’s the shipping that gets you. They run flawless though, and are about the same length as an AR 30rnd mag.
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Who made your nine rounders and where did you buy them from?
They are the VR60 Factory mags and I have 2 from here.. Works flawless with the VR80
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Old 06-07-2019, 4:15 PM
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Thanks guys!
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Wow. never heard of the VR80 until this thread came up. And I never felt the urge to have a 12g shotgun. But damn, this looks pretty sweet. and $649!?!
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I just put down on a VR80. The one ASP in Vacaville had instock sold in one day. They have another one coming in. My name is on it. Canít wait. After all the reviews I been seeing itís looking pretty good.
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Sounds good let us know how it runs once you pick it up...
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Question for folks that own one. How are the popup sights? I may have some Magpul ones laying around.
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Question for folks that own one. How are the popup sights? I may have some Magpul ones laying around.
Great I put the target at 25 yards and tore out the bullseye rings
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Anyone know why the ones sold through Turners and Rifle gear have a full top rail while all the others in videos have the slimed down portion in the middle?
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yup Turners has it on sale 640
https://www.turners.com/rock-island-...-12-gau-715647
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Got mine this week. Now to find some rifled slugs and have some fun.
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Just picked up my VR80. And yes the mag lock pin can be just screwed out. Very easy. Also did someone said that the hellfire pin works on this? I have one on my UTAS XTR but that uses a AR-10. Anyone try the AR-15 yet?
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Yes I talked to Jtac Monday and they are working on it
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Just bought a VR80 yesterday. Can't want to replace most to the plasticy contact points with something grippier.
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Just picked up my VR80. And yes the mag lock pin can be just screwed out. Very easy. Also did someone said that the hellfire pin works on this? I have one on my UTAS XTR but that uses a AR-10. Anyone try the AR-15 yet?
Diameter of the AR-15 pin is too small, they are AR-10 sized. The AR-10 Juggernaut pin works ok, but is a little long. If you have a spare one laying around it works well enough for now, but I wouldnít go buy one just for this as Juggernaut is supposedly working on making a rear pin specially for the VR80

On a side note: In the box comes a plastic magazine block, to block a 5 round mag to 2 rounds for hunting. If anyone has theirís and never plans on hunting with it, iíll pay shipping and take it off your hands.
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Yeah just like it. Itís basically an ar15 patterned shotgun.



Fixed mag setup appears to be the Hogue freedom fighter, or something similar. Pull the rear takedown pin and it hinges open about 30degrees and then normal mag release to change. Comes with 2 five round mags, with 9 rounders available...


I'm new to the scene and have put a down at Turners for the VR80, as I am unfamiliar with the laws around them, is it feasible to say it's ok to buy a 9rd magazine (since it's under 10 shells or does that only apply to rifles and pistols)?
The one at Turners I believe only comes with one 5rd magazine.


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I'm new to the scene and have put a down at Turners for the VR80, as I am unfamiliar with the laws around them, is it feasible to say it's ok to buy a 9rd magazine (since it's under 10 shells or does that only apply to rifles and pistols)?
The one at Turners I believe only comes with one 5rd magazine.


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Same 10 round limit applies here as well. And it’s fixed mag, so no freedom week mags. Order the 9 rounders away, just be ready for your wallet to get lighter, they are pricey!

BTW, can anyone confirm if they are indeed only coming with one 5rnd mag now? Mine came with two...
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I'm new to the scene and have put a down at Turners for the VR80, as I am unfamiliar with the laws around them, is it feasible to say it's ok to buy a 9rd magazine (since it's under 10 shells or does that only apply to rifles and pistols)?
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The one I just DROSed at Sacramento Black rifle an hour ago had two 5 rounders in a styrofoam wrap pouch thing in the box. I ordered mine from their distributor. But I picked up a couple 9 round mags a couple weeks ago for Rocklin Armory.

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VR80 owners-Have you gotten any more rounds through your gun?

How is your gun doing?

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shot VR80 first time this weekend, zero'd iron sights @ 50 yards with Estate 1610 fps 1 oz rifled slugs requiring a mere 3 rds. for sighting-in afterwards was easy to routinely engage a steel silhouette @ 110 yds. The only thing could possibly be better is the bullpup version VRB-100
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Would you mind explaining your mods? Brands used?
Pretty simple really. The VR80 uses a commercial buffer tube. So any fixed stock (i used a magpul MOE fixed carbine stock) that uses a commercial buffer tube will work.

The grip I used is a standard generic mil spec A2 grip. I think mine was left over from an Anderson lower parts kit. The grip screw from the VR80 was a different thread pitch than a standard A2 grip screw. So I reused the VR80 grip screw and tossed the screw that came with the A2 grip.

Some brands of fixed stocks, like the MOE Magpul I used, may require some minor modification. With the stock I used you will see that the screw that holds the fixed stock in place does not completely clear the buffer tube (see picture below). You have three choices.

Option 1. You can either file off a little of the stock adapter where it meets the lower receiver to move the adapter forward about 3/16" to clear the buffer tube.
Option 2. You can file the buffer tube. If you file the buffer tube you can always replace it down the road. I chose to file the cheap plastic stock adapter. It took about 5 minutes of filing and test fitting until the screw cleared allowing me to mount the stock.
Option 3. Someone else mentioned that they didn't need to trim their stock at all to make the screw work. So you could try a different fixed stock.

Just be aware of the potential issue.

The whole swap from start to finish was maybe 20 minutes. I did all the work with a file, a Phillip's screw driver and a long 3/16" Allen wrench to remove the old stock. Everything came out very clean. No gaps or any misalignment. I'm very pleased.




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