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Old 06-13-2018, 11:41 AM
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Default The IGT (Inert Gas Technology)

Is this technology any good or better than spring piston ?

Does it need recharging often?

This will be for rat hunting will .177 pellets do the job?

Looking at the Raptor Whisper Air Rifle .

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It's nothing new, they are less effected by temperature and don't fatigue such as a spring after being left cocked for extended periods while in the field. Like any piston gun don't use lightweight pellets such as alloy...great way to ruin a gun and achieve crappy accuracy.
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Its kind of a dead end technology. I wouldnt bother with a springer of any type. Look up the Artillery hold for why.

Go with a cheap PCP, and pump, or the benjamin pump rifles.
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Its kind of a dead end technology.
No, it isn’t. Check around on some of the websites of the larger airgun retailers. You’ll see any number of spring piston guns available ranging from cheap junk to expensive heirloom quality rifles that will outlast you.

Buy a good spring gun and you’ll never get rid of it. By the same token, if you purchase one of the many junky guns put out by the Chinese and Spanish manufacturers, you will almost certainly be disappointed.

Spring guns by their very nature need a little practice to shoot well, but if you learn to hold them correctly you’ll consistently shoot dime-sized groups at 30 yards.

Of course, PCP guns have their charms and will outshoot most spring guns, but you also need to pay more attention to the logistics involved in shooting these guns. You’ll need SCBA tanks, the associated filling apparatus, and a source of high pressure air (some people are lucky in that their local firemen will fill their tanks for them, but don’t count on that option as they can oftentimes be supercilious arrogant pr#cks).

With spring guns, however, you grab your rifle and a tin of pellets and you’re on your way.

And I particularly like the idea of the gas ram as a spring. I have an English Webley Patriot in .25 with a gas ram installed and it shoots remarkably well.
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The only reason I decided against going for a PCP rifle is all the other associated equipment. Spare tanks, pump, compressor, or having to go to a dive shop and get charged to test my tank and have it refilled. I don't like having all this extra stuff sitting around. My gun safe is full enough as it is

All other guns are just grab and go
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Yeah a PCP can be a big commitment. Some of the entry level PCPs are pretty reasonably well priced now with a hand pump.
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In balance, an entry level PCP using a hand pump is still better than a springer. Deal with the hand pump until you want to go with a bottle. Many PCP air rifle owners stay with a hand pump unless they're shooting so much that the pump simply becomes a nuisance.

I second the Benjamin Marauder. A .177 might be fine but a .22 will be a whole lot better.
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I might not have been accurate with my question.

Gas Piston? Is this a fixed cylinder with sealed gas charg that you are compressing like cocking a spring piston ?

I'm looking at the Hastan 95 QE gas piston spring or spring piston.

Or a GAMO equivalent.

I don't want to be whipping out my HK .308 91 for these rats.
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I disagree and believe it is a dead technology. I say this as the proud owner of an Air arms tx200hc. I grab the pellets and go and it is a nice rifle.

But, my BSA R10 will stack pellets into almost the same hole at 20 yards, I canít even come close with the springer. Itís accurate I am sure but the Hold is terrible to me personally and I think springers should fix those issues before I will consider them ever again. I have had much more fun with my 90s Benjamin Sheridan silver streak in .20 cal. Dead nuts accurate and an absolute powerhouse after it got back from Mac1 airguns.

They make a pcp that takes those 13ci 3000 psi tanks made by ninja. Theyíre $50 a pop and can be filled at any paintball field or paintball shop. I have about 6 of them laying around and enjoy them thoroughly, I also bought a hand pump and will top them off when I am bored.

I have wasted thousands on springers, I have arguably the nicest one on the market and it still sucks... your mileage may vary.
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I disagree and believe it is a dead technology. I say this as the proud owner of an Air arms tx200hc. I grab the pellets and go and it is a nice rifle.

But, my BSA R10 will stack pellets into almost the same hole at 20 yards, I can’t even come close with the springer. It’s accurate I am sure but the Hold is terrible to me personally and I think springers should fix those issues before I will consider them ever again. I have had much more fun with my 90s Benjamin Sheridan silver streak in .20 cal. Dead nuts accurate and an absolute powerhouse after it got back from Mac1 airguns.

They make a pcp that takes those 13ci 3000 psi tanks made by ninja. They’re $50 a pop and can be filled at any paintball field or paintball shop. I have about 6 of them laying around and enjoy them thoroughly, I also bought a hand pump and will top them off when I am bored.

I have wasted thousands on springers, I have arguably the nicest one on the market and it still sucks... your mileage may vary.
Hahaha You said what many want to say but won't, I still enjoy shooting piston guns and yes the TX is a nice one. PCP guns are becoming far advanced, especially the Big Bores...super accurate at several hundred yards. Can't do that with a springer! For backyard use I can see someone new to Airguns having a blast with just about anything. The best Airgun is the one your shooting! It's somewhat a progressive hobby, we start out with lower end sometimes and next thing we know our CC is maxed out.

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Looks like the Hatsan 95 Air Rifle Combo, Vortex Gas Spring will fill the bill. Any stocking dealers on the central coast ?

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