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Old 10-22-2017, 8:08 AM
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Make bot spotting and killing fun again! How about a t shirt or mug for the most bots reported each month?
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The spammer's thread titles are getting better.
Seriously. I am now having trouble figuring out if it is one of the usual idiots from OT or is it a spammer.
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20 of the first 25 in General Gun.

At this rate, does the iTrader rate really matter??
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C'mon you brainiac techies.....get this sheit done!

It's getting worse and annoying as hell
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Spammers for sure - I just removed 30 users and 90 threads.

See what I get for cooking dinner?
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C'mon, it's not that hard to recognize a spammer.

If the title doesn't make it plain, the screen name usually does.

Yes, they are annoying, but it's part of the webz. It would be nice to be rid of them, but that's probably not gonna happen.

Recognize them, report them and move on.
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I just started printing spam posts and taping them to my Hillary Campaign Target stands.
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C'mon, it's not that hard to recognize a spammer.

If the title doesn't make it plain, the screen name usually does.

Yes, they are annoying, but it's part of the webz. It would be nice to be rid of them, but that's probably not gonna happen.

Recognize them, report them and move on.
It may be a part of the web, but I just do not see spam on any other internet forums that I frequent. I'd assume that moderators here do it for free. Most forums take a day or 2 to approve a new user name. Result is no spam.
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I too wish something could be done to rid us of the SPAM. Aren't you moderators tired of it too?

There are vendor partners at the top of the page/advertisers that could help (insert $$$ here)?

No other forum i'm on has the magnitude of this problem CA GUNz has. Why has this not been addressed? Making the forum not the forum it used to be.

Deal with it or don't visit? Enjoyment very diminished sorting thru the BS as we are all sick of looking at it; of that i'm sure. Each week there is more of it to sort thru. Too bad for us.
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As I understand it part of the upgrading problem would be the loss of the iTrader rating system. You willing to lose your 20?

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I too wish something could be done to rid us of the SPAM. Aren't you moderators tired of it too?

There are vendor partners at the top of the page/advertisers that could help (insert $$$ here)?

No other forum i'm on has the magnitude of this problem CA GUNz has. Why has this not been addressed? Making the forum not the forum it used to be.

Deal with it or don't visit? Enjoyment very diminished sorting thru the BS as we are all sick of looking at it; of that i'm sure. Each week there is more of it to sort thru. Too bad for us.
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What are the spammers getting out of what they are doing? If I click on a post that turns out to be spam, I leave. Are they really making money that way?
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As I understand it part of the upgrading problem would be the loss of the iTrader rating system. You willing to lose your 20?
You don't necessarily lose it, not if you've got a good guy to handle the upgrade. The pain is every single hack/mod done to the site has to be re-installed, and of course you have to do it in a way that doesn't lose the info.
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Old 10-29-2017, 2:46 PM
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You don't necessarily lose it, not if you've got a good guy to handle the upgrade. The pain is every single hack/mod done to the site has to be re-installed, and of course you have to do it in a way that doesn't lose the info.
Not just redone, but re written to work with the new software, which takes lots of time, $$$ and isn't always possible.
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Not just redone, but re written to work with the new software, which takes lots of time, $$$ and isn't always possible.
That's why I still think this is a simple solution:

VBulletin options/user registration options/ moderate new members/ yes

Takes less than a minute and will stop every single spammer immediately. They aren't able to post anywhere until they are manually okayed. Plus most of them have ridiculous usernames, so they're very easy to pick out.

Someone does need to look at the new registrations to let real members in, so there may be a delay for them to post, but the result is worth it IMO.
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Old 10-29-2017, 5:37 PM
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i was just thinking
yah i know, bad idea
anyway, can you count how many attempts at creating a username there are. my thought is ANY username that is successful on first try, has got to be spammer, seriously, how many of us upon account creation had to try at least 3 times to get something that was not used? so, if its good first attempt, its gotta be computer generated/automated
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That's why I still think this is a simple solution:

VBulletin options/user registration options/ moderate new members/ yes

Takes less than a minute and will stop every single spammer immediately. They aren't able to post anywhere until they are manually okayed. Plus most of them have ridiculous usernames, so they're very easy to pick out.

Someone does need to look at the new registrations to let real members in, so there may be a delay for them to post, but the result is worth it IMO.
^ This! Simple, easy and effective.
Within less than 30 days the spammers will give up and start going away. Deleting posts and spammers after the fact is futile and allows them to win so that's why they stay and it gets worse.
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^ This! Simple, easy and effective.
Within less than 30 days the spammers will give up and start going away. Deleting posts and spammers after the fact is futile and allows them to win so that's why they stay and it gets worse.
Wouldn't it also be faster to have a mod run a batch of potentials, than be reactionary and chase the spam (asked out of 99% ignorance on the actual process).
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Wouldn't it also be faster to have a mod run a batch of potentials, than be reactionary and chase the spam (asked out of 99% ignorance on the actual process).
Possibly, but what is your criteria for identifying the spammers?
One of the things that I used in the past was the to block IPs from countries known to spam. This eliminated them from getting to the website to begin with.
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Possibly, but what is your criteria for identifying the spammers?
One of the things that I used in the past was the to block IPs from countries known to spam. This eliminated them from getting to the website to begin with.
I was thinking if they had to wait a day or two to gain approval to post here (as suggested above) then maybe it'd slow the spammers down.

I'd be curious to see the time interval between sign-up and the first post for known spammers.
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I too wish something could be done to rid us of the SPAM. Aren't you moderators tired of it too?

There are vendor partners at the top of the page/advertisers that could help (insert $$$ here)?

No other forum i'm on has the magnitude of this problem CA GUNz has. Why has this not been addressed? Making the forum not the forum it used to be.

Deal with it or don't visit? Enjoyment very diminished sorting thru the BS as we are all sick of looking at it; of that i'm sure. Each week there is more of it to sort thru. Too bad for us.
Suggestions have been made that don't seem to require much money. How hard can it be?

I'm uncertain as to are there enough moderators to actually service the site in normal times, let alone the spam world that's here now.
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I work on another site as a mod, and I agree that stopping spam is a lot of work. After some effort, we reached settings that keep most of it out of view and in a moderation queue, but the downside is a lot of work goes into clearing the queue, and valid posts can be delayed for hours. In addition, we had to add restrictions to editing posts, etc, that make it harder on newer users. I don't know what the right answer might be.
What about what many other sites do and set a requirement of X-number of posts that must be read before being able to post anything? That seemed to have helped at other sites I view. If you set a "you must read a minimum number of posts before being able to post yourself I'm betting it would deter some of what we've seen.
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I'd be curious to see the time interval between sign-up and the first post for known spammers.
For the ones I have deleted, the range is less than one day to 5 weeks.

And a few post rules-following if banal things, and later edit some to include image-trackers and malware links.
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It’s not difficult. Better technology for some one to create an account. 24 hour before they can create new threads.
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Can you keep new members from posting links for 30 days and 30 posts? I know the Lexus forum I am on has some limited account thing for the first 30 days and certain amount of posts. Don't know how much of it is automatic vs manual. We are a MUCH MUCH smaller forum though.
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I have an ideal, well... To actually to cut down on spam.

1) is there a way to set up the board so that if a post gets flagged so many times (let's say 5x) that the post is automatically hidden and the user set into a cue that prevents them from posting till cleared by a mod?

This works two fold, those annoyed with span can hunt them down and soft ban them without the help of mods and preserves actual ban by mods whole putting said accounts on timeout and denying them the clicks their sites so desire for higher results when search for stuff on the internet.

2) the other thing would be to disallow hyperlinking to stuff for the first 15-20 posts? This combined with the first idea may stop them cold. Since they want to post links and and can't do so till so many posts, they've got to stay on topic (since OT doesn't count your posts) and contribute or be called out and put on soft ban.

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And I'm sure Kes wants the spammers gone too... I imagine the extra traffic and posts drive up his costs....

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The spammers are hitting more forums than before..
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So how does one report these spammers?
I simply cannot find the button now.
The last one (spam post)got reported\dumped as I was reading up.
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So how does one report these spammers?
I simply cannot find the button now.
The last one (spam post)got reported\dumped as I was reading up.
Look for the red triangle in upper right of the post.
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So what did you guys change? I haven't seen a spammer for a few days.
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Yes and no.

It's not new really, just something I was hoping to not have to use.
Since Friday I have been manually checking the IP address and approving or deleting each new registration.

It's effective but it takes a little time and effort.
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As a moderator for another site with high traffic I can commiserate with these Mods. They do a fantastic job.
That being said we can't expect them to be in all places at one time. My wife can tell you how many times I have pulled away from something to pull out my phone so I could delete a post or a thread.
It's not as easy keeping up as people would think, especially on a site this large with this many subforums.
Making changes to the site is not as easy as one would think to. There is always the after effect. You changed x and now y doesn't work, but y isn't related to x and you don't know why y won't work anymore etc etc.
Also your working within the constrains of Vbull.
The site I am on, uses a simple question that people could google the answer to. It's not full proof, and also has not had the level of spam attack that this site has had.
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