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Old 02-24-2013, 5:41 AM
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Default $30 DROS?

Got charged $30 and some change the other day when i DROS'd my sp2022.

I thought it was $25? (19+1+5)

I asked when the fee went up and the girl said it's always been $30.. Checked online and it still says $25

This was at turners in san marcos

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Old 02-24-2013, 5:45 AM
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Was it lumped into one fee for $30? If it was $25+ $5 dealer fee, then that is legal.
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Old 02-24-2013, 5:50 AM
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Not sure, there were a few fees but i havent looked at my receipt yet. Just struck me as odd



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Old 02-24-2013, 5:50 AM
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Turners charges a $5 handling fee.
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Old 02-24-2013, 6:18 AM
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Ahhhh, i get it now. Thanks..

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They can charge up to $10, so it's pretty cool that Turners only charges $5. I just bought a Glock at Pro Force and the DROS was $35. I was shocked because I have bought so many guns at Turners and the DROS was always $30.
But then again, Pro Force can get away with it because Blue Label Glocks are a steal.
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They charge $35 for a FTF transfer, but only $30 if you by it from them.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:07 PM
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$35 and under is legal.
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They can charge up to $10, so it's pretty cool that Turners only charges $5. I just bought a Glock at Pro Force and the DROS was $35. I was shocked because I have bought so many guns at Turners and the DROS was always $30.
But then again, Pro Force can get away with it because Blue Label Glocks are a steal.
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$35 and under is legal.
they aren't limited to $10 for a sales transfer.

they can charge whatever they want as a dealer fee, as long as they declare it as such.

they only time they are limited to a $10 dealer fee is when it is a CA-defined PPT.
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they aren't limited to $10 for a sales transfer.

they can charge whatever they want as a dealer fee, as long as they declare it as such.

they only time they are limited to a $10 dealer fee is when it is a CA-defined PPT.
Please clarify. Do you mean out of state transfers or non-face to face transfers they can charge more than the $10? It is my understanding that on all face to face PPTs in Ca the FFL cannot charge more than the $10 fee. They can require you make an appointment request in writing though.

If they were going to charge a higher fee to sell firearm at their store wouldn't they just raise the sale price?

Also, I do not believe Turner's will do non face to face PPTs

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Please clarify. Do you mean out of state transfers or non-face to face transfers they can charge more than the $10? It is my understanding that on all face to face PPTs in Ca the FFL cannot charge more than the $10 fee. They can require you make an appointment request in writing though.
I mean that for any transfer (out-of-state, in-state shipped, dealer sale, etc) other than a CA-defined PPT, that they can change anything they want, provided that they state that it is a dealer fee and not a state fee.


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If they were going to charge a higher fee to sell firearm at their store wouldn't they just raise the sale price?
you would think so, but they would apparently rather sell you the gun for $500 and then charge you a $5 dealer fee versus sell you the gun for $505.

and in the post regarding ProForce, it appears that they tack on a $10 dealer fee for in-store purchased firearms. don't know if it is for all firearms or just those Blue Label Glocks that have a fixed-price IIRC. Sounds like if they can't mark up the cost of the gun, they get you with an extra dealer fee.
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Old 03-09-2013, 8:41 AM
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from CA DOJ FAQS:

How much is the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) fee?

The State's DROS fee is $19.00 which covers the costs of the background checks and transfer registry. There is also a required $1.00 Firearms Safety Testing fee and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement fee. If the transaction being processed is a dealer sale, consignment return, or return from pawn, the dealer may impose other charges as long as this amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a state fee. In the event of a private party transfer, the firearms dealer may additionally charge a fee of $10 per firearm transferred.

When settling on the purchase price of a firearm and before completing the transaction, you may want to ask the dealer to disclose and identify any and all fees he/she is charging to complete the transaction.

(PC Sections 12076, 12082, and 12806)

What fees can I charge in addition to the DROS?

In addition to the State's $19.00 DROS fee, you must also charge a $1.00 Firearms Safety Testing fee and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement fee. If the transaction being processed is a dealer sale, consignment return, or return from pawn, you may impose other charges as long as this amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a State fee.

(PC sections 12071(b)(11), (12))


What fees can I charge for handling a Private Party Transfer (PPT)?

If the transaction is a PPT, you are restricted to charging no more than $25.00 in State fees described and $10.00 per firearm for conducting the PPT. For example:
For a PPT involving one or more handguns, the total allowable fees are $35.00 for the first handgun, and $31.00 for each subsequent handgun.
For PPTs involving one or more long guns, the State fees are limited to $25.00 for the whole transaction plus $10.00 dealer fee per firearm transferred.

(PC section 12082)
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:14 AM
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turner's charge $35 for ppt, $30 for new/used/consignment.

they used to charge $35.00 for consignments.

other places like big5 charges $25 for new and $35 for ppt.
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