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Old 02-13-2018, 3:54 PM
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Gun owners who bothered to vote are outnumbered. We need to get ALL gun owners on board. Every single one of us needs to step up.
You are absolutely right!
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Old 02-13-2018, 3:59 PM
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You are absolutely right!
Amen, brother. Spread the word.

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Old 02-13-2018, 4:20 PM
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Old 02-13-2018, 5:32 PM
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I think if we got more people engaged and voting, we could take back this state or at least make good headway. It seems to me that many, many rural residents either don't vote at all or not consistently enough; if they did and were more careful about how they voted, we'd be in a better place.

Hell, even people who are indifferent to guns would be good allies as they aren't on board with the left-wing agenda.

I do like the ideas of splitting off the state; frankly, I had the idea several years ago about splitting it east / west, shaving off the coast, which is what really needs to happen since the worst marxists are in SF & LA.
Dividing the state sounds good but it hasn't been successful.

They are not just going to let that happen. They think that depriving people of rights and controlling them is their job, so allowing a split isn't something they will permit. And we are counting on people to vote with us when they can't reason their way out of a paper bag. The masses are at the bread and circuses stage and they see big corporations and government as their masters.

We are going to have to shoot our way out.
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Old 02-14-2018, 5:04 AM
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Cheerleaders DON'T win the game. It's the players on the field executing the strategy directed by the coaches.
We have no new/good coaches coming up with a winning strategy!!!
Let's just run the old plays and somehow expect to win, if we loose again and we blame the people in the bleachers for not cheering enough and not paying more for the tickets!
Blowing sunshine up the back door won't win us our rights back!
*Lets blame rural folk for not voting! We know they don't contribute or are anything more than fly overs and ignorant bleacher rats.
Yeah. I am a CA rural and my family has lived here for 5 generations.

OK let's run with this;

You're a player on the field and in your mind, you envision the scoreboard at the end of the game; it's 16-0, in the other team's favor. You obsess on this, and keep repeating to yourself over and over "I'm a loser, this game is already over...I just wanna go home, sit on the couch and eat potato chips. Let's just get this crappy thing overwith."

The other team is bigger, stronger, and they outnumber you. That's all you focus on, along with your vision of a losing score.

How are you going to win this game since you've already lost it in your mind?

Be specific.

Damn...I'm so glad I didn't ever come to the OT forum looking for business advice; people would have sucked the energy & dream right out of me and talked me out of building my own successful business.
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Old 02-14-2018, 7:43 AM
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Gun owners here vote with their feet. If you want gun rights you will need to follow them.
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Old 02-14-2018, 8:17 AM
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Since the 80's it's been the same. Nothing legal has stopped the commies.
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Old 02-14-2018, 8:35 AM
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Gun owners here vote with their feet. If you want gun rights you will need to follow them.
Ya well, I happen to like living in California and I'm not willing to forfeit living in the state I want to live in just because I'm being bullied by the majority.

Are they ruining the state I want to live in? Absolutely, they are. But I'm not ready to give up the fight yet. I want this state to be great again, and I'm doing what I can to make it happen. Others are just leaving, and that's fine, they weren't really bringing anything to the table anyways with their defeatist attitudes.

This state is going to turn around - if I didn't believe that, I'd have left years ago. It might not be in 1 year, it might not even be in 10 years, but it'll happen. These things are cyclical, and it's only a matter of time before the majority decides they've had enough.
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Old 02-14-2018, 12:38 PM
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Stop voting for any democrat, period. Choosing the "lesser of the 2 evils" and voting democrat is stating that you want a democrat to hold that seat.

Whether they win or not, the number of votes they receive matter to the party as a percentage of overall votes.

Break the cycle and stop giving democrats any votes.
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Old 02-14-2018, 2:02 PM
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Stop voting for any democrat, period. Choosing the "lesser of the 2 evils" and voting democrat is stating that you want a democrat to hold that seat.

Whether they win or not, the number of votes they receive matter to the party as a percentage of overall votes.

Break the cycle and stop giving democrats any votes.

What you say mirrors how I feel.
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Old 02-14-2018, 5:40 PM
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I gave money to the Cali Republicans and the NRA for a lot of years and what has that gotten me.
Less 2A rights and more taxes, bigger intrusive govt anon.
They promised that "IF we fight we can win!".

Every year we find ourselves reliving anti -gun Ground Hog Day. The more money spent the more erosion of our Constitutional rights. Rights that cannot be deprived?
"Fighting" in court has proven to be a failed tactic in general. It's always a rope a dope and they wait for the bell to ring or they loose and it gets kicked up to the 9th where it dies a sudden death.
We jump through ever diminishing 2A hoops and call it a positive or win. Really?
So show me a winning strategy and I'll get on board again.
Until then we sit and spin on it.
OK, then what alternative plan of action do you have to offer?
I've been donating to the NRA for 30 years. The one thing I truly believe they have done is slow the decline. In this state I don't know if they could have done any better than that, but if you have a solution, let's hear it
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Old 02-14-2018, 6:09 PM
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Stop voting for any democrat, period. Choosing the "lesser of the 2 evils" and voting democrat is stating that you want a democrat to hold that seat.

Whether they win or not, the number of votes they receive matter to the party as a percentage of overall votes.

Break the cycle and stop giving democrats any votes.
until we get gun owners to vote en masse and stop also voting for Democrats because they think the gun they own isn't affected by any legislation and stop viewing owning guns as a hobby and view it as a right we will continue the death spiral we are in.

the death spiral is coming to an end when Newsom wins. There will be nothing to stop them from passing any legislation when he takes governorship.
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Old 02-14-2018, 6:13 PM
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Stop voting for any democrat, period. Choosing the "lesser of the 2 evils" and voting democrat is stating that you want a democrat to hold that seat.

Whether they win or not, the number of votes they receive matter to the party as a percentage of overall votes.

Break the cycle and stop giving democrats any votes.
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Old 02-15-2018, 7:36 AM
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I've done this for years here. If there are two commies on the ticket I still cast a ballot but with no one selected. That is my protest vote. It says "none of the above are acceptible". If millions bother to cast blank ballots that will garner the attention we are not getting here.
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Gavin Newsom South OC Meet and Greet
Sunday, February 18th, 2018 - Doors Open 6:15pm, Event Begins 6:30pm
San Juan Community Center
25925 Camino Del Avion
San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675

contact: daniel@gavinnewsom.com

RSVP Required

I will be out of town but would love for some pro 2a people to go do a meet and greet!
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And once again he is spam posting his anti gun crap on his FB page...and his followers are lapping it up.

I swear this guy gets a hard-on whenever an incident like this occurs.

He will not only sign any and all anti gun legislation, he will push for it.
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CNN Breaking news: California governor candidate Gavin Newsom among the 17 Florida school victims.






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I want this state to be great again, and I'm doing what I can to make it happen. Others are just leaving, and that's fine, they weren't really bringing anything to the table anyways with their defeatist attitudes.

This state is going to turn around - if I didn't believe that, I'd have left years ago. It might not be in 1 year, it might not even be in 10 years, but it'll happen. These things are cyclical, and it's only a matter of time before the majority decides they've had enough.
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CNN Breaking news: California governor candidate Gavin Newsom among the 17 Florida school victims.
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Breaking New: Gavin Newsom hit by a BART train!!!
I've yet to block anyone, you may be the first, all these posts getting my hopes up...
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