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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Gov. Newscum makes aggressive, early moves on his gun control agenda for Califor
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Is this surprising?
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The obviousness of that observation is not relevant to our politicians as long as we still have guns.
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Sadly, I know people who have done this. I've know people who have given firearms registered in their name to others (with no PPT) to pay off debt they owed them. All of this since 2014....
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As for the 54 amount in 1 transaction..that might have been one of my customers that purchased a case of 50 lowers in 2016 + some other stuff...
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Only a matter of time before they start matching Dispensary Customer Lists with Firearm Registrations.
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A gun-grabbing governor and a pro-2A Supreme Court . . . the stage is being set.
Let's get ready to rumble! Attachment 772229
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Anchors Aweigh Last edited by Mayor McRifle; 07-09-2019 at 3:29 PM.. |
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He will sign every bill that comes across his corrupted desk. One a month is just a start. I could see a "one a year" bill being drafted. With the CA court system, what's to stop them? Feel bad for you gun shop owners. I can see you guys getting more grief in the not so distant future. |
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I really feel for the CA firearm retailers. Not firearm related but we tried for over 25 years to keep our businesses afloat. We failed. To the CA firearm retailers you have my blessings and best wishes. Respectfully Kyle
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SO relieved I finally "bit the bullet" and moved out of Kommiefornia. But even though he no longer has direct power over me, Newscum can continue to screw the rest of the country. He is increasing funding to that stupid "Gun violence" research group at UC Davis which will be used to cook up data to support "Guns bad, mmkay?" which will be used as ammunition (no pun intended) by anti gun groups everywhere.
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http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
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It is a given that GN is a tool.
It is a given that is acting purely to satisfy his unhinged base. I mean, they’ve seriously lost it. I am in utter disbelief at how whacked out these people are. Serious question that I never understood, is it really bad to have extra stringent background checks? Is is bad that felons shouldn’t be allowed to own guns? Is is bad that mentally unstable people should not have access to guns? Besides the additional fees and waiting periods, I’d like to think good and honest gun owning peoples would encourage extra measures to keep guns out of the hands of people who really shouldn’t have them. I get it, most of the policies are insane - like trading a fin for a bullet button. But other than that don’t we agree that they should make it harder to get guns? I mean, I’m happy to wait 10 days. I’m glad to give my fingerprint to buy guns and ammo. I’m glad to do it because I’m not a deadbeat and I don’t plan to commit crimes. So if the big picture is an ultimate across the board gun grab, then I agree and get it. If not, please let me know why the disdain for additional gun policies/restrictions.. - freedom gun loving Angelino. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Permits, finger printing, banning of online ammo sales drives costs up & makes it hard for people to purchase ammunition. What if someone does not pay utility bills? What if the utility bills are in someone else's name? Should they not be allowed to purchase ammunition? And how will this prevent crime? Does wanting to buy or trade ammunition without going to a gun store and paying a transfer fee & the associated wait worthy of calling someone a deadbeat? I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at here. How do these proposals even reduce crime? Likewise, practically everyone is "mentally ill" these days. The definition will continue to expand much like the "assault weapon" term has. Minor depression on record? No firearms. Are you a shy, introverted person who cannot obtain enough "good character" recommendations before purchasing a firearm or ammo? No gun rights for you. Clearly, introverts are mentally ill. Go to the hospital, take a certain kind of medication and find out it disqualifies you from firearm ownership? Too bad, you were in the emergency room and had no idea about what medication would trigger a firearm confiscation from you. |
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Do criminals have to wait ten days or go through a background or psych exam before they buy a gun on the street or desire to carry a loaded weapon for whatever purpose? They just don't give a **** about these laws so none of them affect crime or the criminals that commit them.
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Rrright. So you’re ok with felons owning guns? Mentally unstable people owning guns? You know how they say that a border wall will keep criminals out? And how the left says that it’s “mostly good people”? And how we say “yeah but if one criminal gets through and kills one person, wouldn’t the wall be worth it?” Yeah, it’s actually exactly like that. If all the regulations, and all the bull**** fees, and all the waiting periods keep even ONE bad guy from buying a gun and killing someone, wouldn’t that be worth it? As far as the other freedoms you’d like me to imagine them taking, I prefer to take their suggestions at face value and just focus on the criminals and the insane. You still have your AR’s I’m assuming? Your AK’s? Your 300 Wins and your 500’s? Slugs? Buck? Bird? Name it, I bet it’s still on the shelf at your local shop. So they took 30 round mags and full auto. One is useless, and the other is very expensive. The new rules make it hard for guys like us to have the toys we want. But, they make it next to impossible for a bad guy to walk down the street to the local shop and buy a gun to do harm. I just don’t see what the problem with that is. You still haven’t provided me with a good reason not to allow extensive background checks and restrictions of gun ownership to felons. Besides imagining what could be, let’s focus on what is. If the though of some imaginary future where your freedoms are being taken away is scarier than a mentally insane person being able to buy a gun freely, than you sir need to “check yo self”. Respectfully of course. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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A+ sir. All very valid and solid points. Answered like a scholar and not a nut. Thank you, this is the answer I was looking for. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Laws as to possession by a felon are already state and federal laws, and within the 2nd Amendment. And a "good reason" is the 2nd Amendment. [/QUOTE]
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Serious question that I never understood, is it really bad to have extra stringent background checks? Ask the same question about any other Constitutional right. Should we have background checks before people are allowed to vote? Maybe not, but I think Valid ID’s are a good start. Besides, stay on point. My question was in regards to background checks for gun ownership, not voting. Is is bad that felons shouldn’t be allowed to own guns? If they are still dangerous, shouldn't they be locked up, or are you placing judgement on them for some future crime they may commit, because sometime in the past they did. If we could convicted on potential, we'd all be locked up. Why should they be locked up? If you drive drunk you get your license taken away. If you are convicted of felony, you have proved that you are not capable of being an asset to society. Why then should you be able to buy a gun? For example, during a riot there are two types of people. Those who help keep peace and uphold the law, and those who see an opportunity to break the law, plunder, and steal. I’m just saying that I prefer the latter group have a harder time to buy guns. Am I crazy?? Is is bad that mentally unstable people should not have access to guns? Yet we allow them to vote and drive cars which have the potential to kill far more than any gun could. This I agree with entirely. I get it, most of the policies are insane I agree. But other than that don’t we agree that they should make it harder to get guns? Nope, the instant background check should be enough, and even that is overreach. I could buy a chainsaw and kill more on a crowded bus or store, but we don't regulate that. You’re right, I’ve seen people stabbed to death with a 4” folder (about 10 ft away from me, not tv). Doesn’t change the fact that on any day of the week I can walk into a shop and buy whatever the hell I want, and a criminal can’t. That is a good thing. I mean, I’m happy to wait 10 days. I’m glad to give my fingerprint to buy guns and ammo. That is too bad you've given in to the MSM hype. I’m not sure what you mean. I don’t watch as much TV as you do. Again, I’m not a fan of 95% of the legislation by any means. I guess I just don’t understand why it’s so bad that felons and the insane shouldn’t be allowed to own guns is bad. Not anything else you mention, specifically this portion. This was my initial question. I understand the rest. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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These clowns probably include 5.11 pants and a ruger window sticker as "firearms".
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PSSST.... It is not an either or scenario. I do not have to be ok with felons owning guns while not encouraging all the measures you seem to be ok with.
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Each new law, or regulation, restriction just makes the law abiding more likely to unwittingly become a new felon.
That satisfies pro gun advocates and gun control folks alike: felons, old pros or newly minted ones are bad. Everybody wins right? Respectfully Kyle
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Good point MahoTex, it’s not as cut and dry as I’d like to believe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Interesting perspective, and you are absolutely right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Taxpayer dollars at work to pay for Wintemute's junk science. .
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Got 30 more years? That's how long it will take to address them, if at all. Gun rights will not come from a black robe, they will come from the end of a barrel. |
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Less. Much less.
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As soon as you understand the only "common sense" goal the anti's care about is total gun restriction the better off you'll be. So, you go wait your 10 days, along with all your other restrictions on sales, ammo, configuration, capacity, etc. and I'll enjoy my freedoms without any of that nonsense. If you have to compromise a right to get at best half measures, somethings terribly wrong.
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Hard to believe any of of you are actually trying to debate this "TheVazha " guy. It's pretty da*n obvious he's a gun-hating troll.
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I tend to agree
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" Originally Posted by TheVazha View Post
... The new rules make it hard for guys like us to have the toys we want. " Toys? Please don't assume gun owners are children and that guns are "toys". It is never proper and is very reckless to refer to firearms as toys.
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"26161.5. (a) A licensee shall not disclose a consumer’s personal information to a third party, except to the extent necessary to allow responsibility for payment to be determined and payment to be made or if the consumer has consented to the licensee’s disclosure of the personal information. This section does not prohibit the disclosure of nonpublic personal information to the State of California or a city, county, or city and county to perform official duties pursuant to this division or a local ordinance." AKA they would need a warrant to be able to link you, your consent, or a bull**** law to pass to link you. Be careful what you agree to and be aware of what laws are passing around you. The best part about that law though, is that it does not give an auto exemption to the fed, unless you have consented, or if there is a warrant, I presume.
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