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Old 03-19-2010, 7:12 PM
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does anyone know what kind of tooling would be needed to make your own rifle brass from scratch? I know they have been making it since the 1800's and they also had small ammunition manufacturing shops set up in apartments during WWII, so I imagine the tooling wouldnt be too crazy. Thanks for the info.

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Old 03-19-2010, 7:32 PM
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Both drawing from a cup slug or extrusion would be really impossible in a home setting.

Rifle brass would be next to impossible to machine at home with shoulders/tapered walls etc.

If you were really skilled, straightwall pistol would probably be doable in a home environment.
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Wow, its really that hard? I mean I totally believe you, when I was trying to find info about it I didnt really find any articles about anyone doing it out of their home. You would think that if it was at all possible you would easily find info about it.
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You would need a Automatic Swaging machine (usually called a repeater) with the proper forming dies and another automated punch press to press out the brass blanks. The blanks would be fed to the repeater and the blank is swaging in step through the swaging dies and out pops a formed case. Straight walled cases are fairly "straight" forward. Bottleneck cases have a slightly higher reject rate.

The older machines can be as small as 4'x8'.
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Um, With the right amount of capital (that would be cash to me and you) I don't see why it wouldn't be possible in a home setting. Expensive, but not impossible. You are usually better off buying brass that can be formed into the caliber you need rather than drawing it yourself though.
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You could probably buy used multi-head swaging machines by auction. The major cost would be sourcing the swaging die sets. Those would be cartridge specific (except where case length is the only difference: ie .38Spl/.357Mag). Could probably get set up for $50-80K. Would still have to buy a punch press and source cold rolled brass sheet.. and for bottleneck cases an annealer.,,,
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It could be done in the home shop. I've seen crazier things done, but why?

here's a little info

How Cartridge Brass is Made







It could prob. be done with something like this, just really slowly.

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after watching that video, I can see how ammo is fairly pricey. Yea I was thinking along the lines of something that was in your third link.
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