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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Coming back to something that was discussed, I think there's definitely a market for a very realistic, non-violent shooting game. In other words, the equivalent of Microsoft Flight Simulator: unlike most flight sims it is explicitly non-violent (no combat involved), but having a flown an airplane after playing Microsoft Flight Simulator, I was amazed at how realistic Microsoft Flight Simulator is.
Naturally building this game without including AR-15 variants, would be like building a flight simulator without including the Cessna 172. I'll readily back this on kickstarter: it's a way to get break both the "guns == violence" and "video games == violence" memes, get more people interested in target shooting, and it would be valuable to sport shooters. (Probably worth starting this as a separate thread in OT forum) |
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Saying Alan's work is not applied genius is probably the silliest thing you've ever said.
Gura's right on the substantive issues and the only reason this is even a conversation is because people don't like mommy and daddy fighting. There's nothing in the record yet that supports an argument to the contrary. Here's some advice to everyone calling us armchair quarterbacks: remove thine own pacifier. Note that we're actually fighting the war and you're posting on a web forum. -Brandon Quote:
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The big problem is that most people that are "biased" either to the right or left when it comes to gun rights are quick to blame something OTHER than the dickhead mental case who decides to shoot up classrooms. The liberals say "BLAME GUNS!!!!", the conservatives say "BLAME GAMES!!!....and PORN!!!.... and GAY MARRIAGE!!!!... and NO PRAYER IN SCHOOL!!!" There's no convincing either side.
What's the answer? ..... watch violent gay porn while making out with an AR as you play COD.
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"New NRA ‘knowledge’ app includes coffin-shaped targets"
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/1...ment-767739461 Commenter: "Aren't these the idiots who've told us guns don't kill people, but video games do?" Ouch. -Brandon
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There are lots of armchair QB's here for sure. Isn't that what the forum will generally generate? Better to have people talk about it here and learn than be in the dark and only hear what the TV has to say. Why toot your horn about how hard you work on the 2A? Most here would never question your dedication. Opinions are like.... But why mock every opinion that is not yours? |
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This is about my cause, not a career; I'm compensated for some of my time, not all of it. My career is project management. I'm more than happy (actually would prefer to) win and go home. Believe it or not, this isn't fun or a great way to live.
Contrary to your implication, I prefer lively and informative debate and don't believe that gun rights can ever be homogenous. I'm not sure it even should be. I still support NRA's work to defend our rights in spite of my personal view that the video game angle was imprudent. Perhaps armchair quarterbacks might find their rights harder to infringe if they talked less and worked more. -Brandon Quote:
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And i wasn't trying to implicate you. Just responding to the post you made. You and i both know that the project management stuff we do, deals with a certain mind set and very much job at hand. (with a get er done attitude) Those parameters don't always work cohesively in other facets of life. |
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After the shenanigans the NRA pulled to be involved with Heller and almost managed to screw up Heller, I don't share your confidence. For a large fraction of its history, the NRA has represented the interests of elmer fud hunters and almost nobody else. The NRA tries to be on the forefront of gun rights defense, but I'll put my money with Gura and SAF on actually getting RKBA stuff done every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Gura is trying to change the paradigm of the gun rights argument. We don't need to vilify some other group to justify our position. This is a basic right and we have it as part of the checks and balances created by the Constitution. We don't need to justify it or seek approval from any governmental body to have it. And we don't need to make half the population look bad while we're doing it.
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The NRA (and we) are up against a multi-billion dollar media machine that has near-total dominance over the minds of "ordinary" Americans.
It's like expecting the Resistance to be able to outshout Goebbels' Propaganda Ministry. Most Americans have made themselves suitable only for subjects, not citizens. They choose to be stupid, ignorant, and foolish. Their "opinions" come from television and magazines, either directly, or indirectly through their friends, who are directly influenced. Thinking is no longer a virtue in our country. If I received a penny for every time "assault weapon" (used in reference to a semi-automatic rifle) was spewed on a single day in the last month, I'd be filthy rich. |
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If those are "coffins," they must be for very fat men. |
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It's not helpful when actions reinforce those harmful perceptions. -Brandon
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[CENTER]CALIFORNIA: Love it, leave it /CENTER] The right to keep and bear arms comes not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.
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$250M/year? Yeah? I seriously don't think so...
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I thought by far the strongest argument articulated by Mr. LaPierre in that speech was that: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" .
This statement was roundly condemned by those who live by its dictum, that in response to an existential threat one must meet force with force. This notion has the great advantage of being intuitively obvious to those who oppose it as well as those who promote it. We know that because its chief critics choose to be protected by good guys with guns. "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them" Matthew 7:20 kjv The President is knee deep in armed good guys 24/7, as is his stand-in, who even now heads a task force bent on denying that protection to ordinary citizens. If these two men at the top of government really believe their own propaganda, let them stand-down the good guys with guns protecting their precious . . . assets. If the president believes good guys with guns in schools is not the answer to protecting our children from bad guys with guns, let him remove the protection from his children's school and deny himself the peace of mind he enjoys as a benefit of their deployment. That School also houses the children of our other masters in the federal government, who advocate and implement the president's policies on this matter. So in addition to the removal of the Secret Service detail protecting the Commander in Chief's kids, let them remove the other eleven armed guards protecting their offspring at that school. Will they do so? Well of course they wont. They wont because they understand fully that the only effective response to a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun. And the proselytizer-in-chief and high priestess of the anti-gun zealots, our own beloved Senator Dianne Goldman Berman Feinstein, who famously, whilst advocating the prohibition of carry permits for the sheeple, carried in her handbag her own gun permit, let her eschew her current retinue of armed bodyguards. Our current state Attorney General, the indefatigable protector and promoter of California's anti-gun laws and protector of the People's Peace, let her stand down her 24/7 taxpayer-funded armed escort. If these officers of state and others responsible for our restrictive gun laws, had to live by them, how long do you think such laws would stay in force? Why do celebrities who make their living glorifying the gun, advocate ever more restriction of our right to keep and bear arms, our call for the repeal of 2A, continue to enjoy the comfort of legal concealed carry weapons, and/or armed personal body guards, whilst seeking to deny the rest of us the same right of self defense? Well of course they do so because they are amoral, shameless hypocrites. Hypocrites who well understand that the only effective answer to a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. Every minute of every day the same people bent on depriving you of the tools of self defense, are providing us with irrefutable evidence of why it is we need them. |
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It was $243.5Mil in FY 2010. http://calffl.org/archive/gunorg990s/nra_2010.pdf
Perhaps their expenditures went down since then, with a presidential election and all... -Brandon
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The WLP speech was awful, and this app was so stupid it's an insult to garden variety stupid people.
I am however finally going with "Life". Fixing the NRA will be easier than building a new org, and being inside the voice is stronger than outside. Besides, we need pressure against right NOW. My only hope is we can get a modern, civil rights minded person, who can also intelligently string together a public argument based on far more solid ground than WLP, or most other rights advocates, have been able to in the national media. It won't happen today or next month, but this fight won't be over then either. Imgaine if in the Piers-Ben Shapiro debate, Ben had pulled out the Ebony cover photo of Malcolm X with his fistful of 60 rounds of freedom during the tyranny argument. I guarantee you, someone like Gene would've made that exact point. Devastatingly. Shame on the NRA for not doing so themselves. Last edited by luvtolean; 01-15-2013 at 8:17 PM.. |
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I would, however, like to see the SAF and NRA both sharing Mr. Gura's abilities. He does seem to be a generational talent.
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The NRA argument is mostly great: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun IS a good guy with a gun. Who that exactly is should be left to each school district to decide on it's own. Localized control is always better than top down dictate from the State capital, much less DC. It may be private security or armed staff or it may be a teacher with a CCW. Certainly not EVERY single teacher needs to be armed. Just enough to make a potential mass murderer think twice if not one that could actually put him down. Sandy Hook could have been stopped if the Principal alone had been armed. Certainly an armed security could have responded once the Principal was shot, if not when he entered the building (by shooting the glass door).
Everything else, from video games to the civil rights angle is a distraction to that very simple fact on larger social and civil issues. NRA should keep it's focus simpler and on a tighter focus and use an eloquent spokesman who doesn't need to be the head of the organization. Chuck Woolery, etc would be perfect.
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