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Old 01-19-2014, 2:04 PM
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Default Watch gun-grabber Kevin De Leon embarrass himself!

I saw you guys talking about De Leon and his recent SB 808 idocy, so I thought y'all might get a kick out of this! I made a little video of one of his more egregiously stupid statements, and provided a translation so that even laymen will understand how stupid this guy is.

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I live in Southern Oregon now, so thankfully I'm out of this moron's jurisdiction, but I grew up in the mountains west of Yreka in Siskiyou County, and I still have a lot of friends there, so I feel for you guys down there in California!
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I've just realized that one of the most depressing things about life is how individuals of an inferior intellect and moral character can infringe on the liberties of another.
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I don't know how De Leon could go on live television and spit out information that is incorrect. He sounded like an idiot the least the Michael Bloomberg could do with all his billions is buy De Leon a teleprompter! What a douche!
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That's how I shoot. With automatic clips. In 1/2 a second.
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That's how I shoot. With automatic clips. In 1/2 a second.
My clips must be malfunctioning ...
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Some one should call him on his bluff and have him prove that it fires 30 rounds with in half a second at another live press conference held at a range and if he doesn't have the stones to pull the trigger cause of his beliefs he should have a law enforcement officer do it for him but the point is to prove his theory on live television.
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Ah, Kevin just trying to brainwashing the masse. This guy knew what he was doing, scarring & spreading fear to public is the Leftist/Communist tactic
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My clips must be malfunctioning ...

You probably don't have 30 caliber clips
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And we thought Yee was a moron. The collective IQ of the universe just dropped from seeing that video....
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You probably don't have 30 caliber clips
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This is so hard to watch. This isn't a Davis gun hater spewing nonsense. This is a politician using fear mongering to get control of the population.


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Illegal SBR?
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People that dont know jacks**t about guns are scared out of their minds after hearing this idiot's lies.
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Automatic assault clips
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He obviously wasnt paying attention in his ESL classes.
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I think Mr. DeLeon should demo that rifle. 60 rounds per second is pretty darn impressive. If he's too timid to shoot it, let Dep Chief Ken Bernard (right next to him) shoot it for us. Film the test and post it. If it CAN do it, the builder and designer should be working for the U.S. military's R & D unit.
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I will not watch it again as it made me and everyone else who watched it dumber.
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Agh agh... Can't even blame him, Just wondering what those LEO standing behind him was thinking when they heard the 30 magazine 30 clip statement.
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I'm certain this criminals will obey this new law.
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Some one should call him on his bluff and have him prove that it fires 30 rounds with in half a second at another live press conference held at a range and if he doesn't have the stones to pull the trigger cause of his beliefs he should have a law enforcement officer do it for him but the point is to prove his theory on live television.
The liberal gun club should invite him to the range... Make a legitimate offer to educate him on firearms, and if he declines, he is disenfranchising members of constituency by refusing to hear them and shows that he is unwilling to learn anything about things he wants to regulate.
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I think you mean .22 caliber dah Leon.....

Not to mention 30 round mags can't be bought, sold or imported into the state or used with B Button fixed mag. Oh and last I checked Full Auto SBR's are also illegal. He spews lies like typical Power Hungry Politician.

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My clips must be malfunctioning ...
Or they're the wrong caliber - you are using 30 caliber clips in your AR right?
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I doubt that gun is 30 caliber anything. looks like an AR SBR. idiot.
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You run a great YouTube channel. Fantastic job with "One Man's Terrorist".
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On a more serious note, while your video is very well done, I think it would be MUCH more effective if it simply points out the outright lies & inaccuracies in his statements.

-Explain "Ghost Gun" & how the rifle in his hands is NOT one.
-Difference between a clip & magazine
-NOT a 30 cal rifle
-NOT capable of 30 rds/ sec.
-Explain the laws ALREADY in effect that prevent this rifle from existing anyway.

Play his statements with full context, then play it again and pick it apart piece by piece. Explain the lies & inaccuracies so a layman can understand, and do it respectfully.

The idea is to clearly show this individual is a liar and completely ignorant of what he pontificates about.

Grab the attention of the folks in the middle. Right now you're just preaching to the choir.

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On a more serious note, while your video is very well done, I think it would be MUCH more effective if it simply points out the outright lies & inaccuracies in his statements.

-Explain "Ghost Gun" & how the rifle in his hands is NOT one.
-Difference between a clip & magazine
-NOT a 30 cal rifle
-NOT capable of 30 rds/ sec.
-Explain the laws ALREADY in effect that prevent this rifle from existing anyway.
I thought that was what I did already... I addressed pretty much all of those points except for the laws. A "ghost gun" isn't anything in particular, so there's no real difference to explain. It seems to be a phrase that he coined to refer to guns without serial numbers, as if they are somehow more scary and as if a serial number is some kind of GPS tracking device capable of stopping crimes before they even happen. So I just made fun of him using such a scary, alarmist term.

And to be fair, it COULD be a .30 caliber rifle. Clearly it's an AR15 receiver and not an AR10 receiver, but there's a chance it could be a .300 AAC Blackout or something. What I was actually trying to point out was that it seems like he was trying to make a reference to the gun's capacity, not it's caliber. He somehow confused "30 rounds" with ".30 caliber"
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You run a great YouTube channel. Fantastic job with "One Man's Terrorist".
Thanks Adeodatus! Have you seen my more recent short films? Watch "Liberation" and "Dick Johnson: TSA Wunderkind" if you haven't seen them yet! I've come a LONG ways since One Man's Terrorist.
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Does he have a Facebook page? Put that video on it
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It's actually better if you watch the whole 20+ min press conference.

I was confused at first but a "Ghost Gun" is apparently a 80% or 3D Printed gun. He shows a pretty plain AR15 as a legal example. Then he shows a few "illegal" examples. That fully automatic 30 cal sbr is the best. That's apparently a "Ghost Gun" that was "used in a crime". Then he shows some SS Heavy Barreled AR15 with what I think is a PRS stock on it. That's a "fully automatic sniper rifle". The other highlight was the 3D printed guns can pass through metal detectors. I won't point out the fallacy in all of that. I could watch about 5mins before my blood started dripping out of my eyes and ears.
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Can anyone tell if that really is an AR10 or is it an AR15?
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I've just realized that one of the most depressing things about life is how individuals of an inferior intellect and moral character can infringe on the liberties of another.
and it's so disheartening & frustrating that ignorance, confusion and misrepresentation is perfectly legal while it makes criminals out of law abiding citizens.

It's amazing how such a buffoon (De Leon) can even draw serious attention.
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and it's so disheartening & frustrating that ignorance, confusion and misrepresentation is perfectly legal while it makes criminals out of law abiding citizens.

It's amazing how such a buffoon (De Leon) can even draw serious attention.
What amazes me more is that people feel he's able to make decisons about their lives and vote him into office to do just that. I wouldn't let him manage a hot dog cart.
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Welcome OP!

Definitely a nice first post!

That guy is full of sheet! But what else do we expect from politicians?
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A block 0 Phalanx CIWS shoots 3000 rounds a minute. That rifle shoots 3600...scary.

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Member SDM44 has a good point in this thread.

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I know, right? We should be mounting home made AR clones on all of our gunships.
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Thanks Adeodatus! Have you seen my more recent short films? Watch "Liberation" and "Dick Johnson: TSA Wunderkind" if you haven't seen them yet! I've come a LONG ways since One Man's Terrorist.
I was just looking at them

Really enjoyed "Enemies" too. Amazing!
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