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Old 05-21-2020, 2:23 PM
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In California, is there a limit on how much factory and/or reloaded ammo can be kept at home? I tried looking for a statute, regulation (even a local ordinance), etc., but couldn't find anything. Hope someone can point me to a reference .... if one exists.
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In California, is there a limit on how much factory and/or reloaded ammo can be kept at home? I tried looking for a statute, regulation (even a local ordinance), etc., but couldn't find anything. Hope someone can point me to a reference .... if one exists.

There are, however, regulations regarding powder. Could it be argued that bullets have powder and therefore the quantity of ammunition is limited? Attorneys will argue that the moon is made of green cheese. Who knows?
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No limit. I keep about 10k rounds on hand of various calibers and have a few friends and family members that have waaay more than that.
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I have about 5k for each gun...should last me till I don’t care anymore.

OP...there are some import restrictions for individuals that you may have heard about...other than that idiocy, you can have all you can afford. We also have some crazy rules on how you buy now too.
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I doubt it. One can never have enough ammo.
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There are plenty of people out there who shoot thousands weekly which would mean they either need to reload close to that or buy by the pallet.
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No limit for individuals.

See the wiki, http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...d_Black_Powder
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There are, however, regulations regarding powder. Could it be argued that bullets have powder and therefore the quantity of ammunition is limited? Attorneys will argue that the moon is made of green cheese. Who knows?
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There may be local code/fire restrictions with some verbiage like 'explosives' for whatever that is worth.
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There may be local code/fire restrictions with some verbiage like 'explosives' for whatever that is worth.
Do have any examples of actual local code/fire restrictions like this from anywhere? Or are you just dreaming up more FUD?
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Do have any examples of actual local code/fire restrictions like this from anywhere? Or are you just dreaming up more FUD?
Are prepared to guarantee that no local municipality in the country has such an ordinance?

My remark was to suggest to the OP that he might check with his local government if he has concerns, that's all.

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There may be local code/fire restrictions with some verbiage like 'explosives' for whatever that is worth.
That's possible, but I think a local gov't trying to say ammunition should be classed as explosives, when the state explicitly says ammo is NOT explosive, might run into some resistance.

Health and Safety Code 12000(f)
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... (f) For the purposes of this part, “explosives” does not include any destructive device, as defined in Section 16460 of the Penal Code, nor does it include ammunition or small arms primers manufactured for use in shotguns, rifles, and pistols.
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No need for a limit. Any limit would be a false victory and any limit would be an infringement.
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In one of the biggest seizures of ammunition in U.S. history, federal agents yesterday raided a South Bay warehouse and confiscated 74.5 million large-caliber bullets, the Customs Service said.

The 7.62-caliber ammunition, enough to fill at least 10 tractor trailers, is used in illegal assault rifles such as the AK-47 or legal semiautomatic weapons. It was imported by Eagle Exim Inc. of Santa Clara, allegedly with false documents, said customs agent Michael Donofrio.

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Boating accident caused me to lose my supply, so now it’s one at a time.
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You might get a little attention if your ammo collection exacerbates the wobble in the earth's rotation. Otherwise, your limit is only limited by your bank account and storage capabilities.
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FUD.
They will argue that the moon is made of green cheese , and he was asking a fair question .
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That's possible, but I think a local gov't trying to say ammunition should be classed as explosives, when the state explicitly says ammo is NOT explosive, might run into some resistance.

Health and Safety Code 12000(f)
I stand corrected. California includes black powder and smokeless powder as 'explosives' but excludes ammunition.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in..._as_explosives
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There are, however, regulations regarding powder. Could it be argued that bullets have powder and therefore the quantity of ammunition is limited? Attorneys will argue that the moon is made of green cheese. Who knows?
Attorneys may argue anything they'd like to argue...and no one knows.


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Do have any examples of actual local code/fire restrictions like this from anywhere? Or are you just dreaming up more FUD?
At this point, I'd vote in favor of fud.


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Lots of Stockholm Syndrome in this state.
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In one of the biggest seizures of ammunition in U.S. history, federal agents yesterday raided a South Bay warehouse and confiscated 74.5 million large-caliber bullets, the Customs Service said.

The 7.62-caliber ammunition, enough to fill at least 10 tractor trailers, is used in illegal assault rifles such as the AK-47 or legal semiautomatic weapons. It was imported by Eagle Exim Inc. of Santa Clara, allegedly with false documents, said customs agent Michael Donofrio.

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They will argue that the moon is made of green cheese , and he was asking a fair question .
Maybe a fair question...I'd call it a Stockholm Stretch.
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If there is some law or regulations regarding ammunition, I would seek to violate it at every possible turn. I don't have much in storage, but no law is going to keep me from acquiring what I want. F them.
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I searched a few sources and found no limits on stored ammunition in California.
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I searched a few sources and found no limits on stored ammunition in California.
That’s because there are none. Don’t listen to the FUD Merchants.
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I stand corrected. California includes black powder and smokeless powder as 'explosives' but excludes ammunition.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in..._as_explosives
I dug into this last year in a thread talking about black powder. Code references and excerpts abound in this thread:https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...php?p=23736493

As noted here and there and everywhere, ammunition is explicitly excluded from the definition of explosives in the code.

But people calling “FUD” on powder restrictions should read that thread.
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But people calling “FUD” on powder restrictions should read that thread.
No one is “calling FUD” on powder restrictions. The OP asked, “Is there a limit on how much factory and/or reloaded ammo can be kept at home?“
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You'll find additional rules in the fire regs for each county/city. I think the 20 pound powder limit is only if not kept in proper fire resistant cabinet.

California does place limits on storage of smokeless propellant - 20 pounds - and black powder - 1 pound. Prohibited persons may not possess any ammunition, or reloaded ammunition (Penal Code 30305) or any ammunition components (Penal Code 16150)
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No one is “calling FUD” on powder restrictions. The OP asked, “Is there a limit on how much factory and/or reloaded ammo can be kept at home?“
Fair enough. The thread drifted a bit, but I re-read it and see that was only regarding the local/county ordinance comment implying an ammo limit. My bad.
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