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Old 03-17-2018, 4:15 AM
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all religion is flawed, because all men are flawed.
Religion is man's search for God. Christianity is God's search for man.

"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.” Luke 19:10
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Old 03-17-2018, 5:56 AM
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I don't think so, if Christianity was the only ingredient needed then we wouldn't have broken away from England. Something more vital was needed and it was missing in 1700s Christian England.

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Old 03-17-2018, 9:53 AM
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I don't think so, if Christianity was the only ingredient needed then we wouldn't have broken away from England. Something more vital was needed.
Excellent point. The American Revolution was not God-ordained. It was sin (1 Peter 2:13-17, Romans 13:1-5, others). Christians wouldn't have done that.
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all religion is flawed, because all men are flawed.
i am not religious, but i don't think evil is done because of religion, it is often done in spite of religion.
religion is often blamed for bad things when it is really man's corruption and exploitation of faith that is the evil, and not the idea of god or religion.

you make very good and valid points, and you're not wrong, but blaming religion for bad things instead of the people that do them is like blaming guns for killing.
Agreed. Religion isn't the problem. It's just one of many problems. Often, it's a valuable solution to many problems. But certainly not every problem.
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The last thing we need in America is a theocracy. The idea of a Christian nation is about as appealing as an Islamist state or, for that matter, liberal utopias. Same principles, different creeds. No thank you! I'll take America the way it is any day of the week over some extremist's version of how it "should" be.
So you accept the extremist views of the Atheists? Odd, your post sounds hypocritical!
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I'll take Christian dogma over statist dogma all week and 5 times on Sunday.
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The worst were fought over atheism.
Exactly. All the great atheists have killed the most people, way more than were taken in the name of any religion or god
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So you accept the extremist views of the Atheists? Odd, your post sounds hypocritical!
Strange, I saw his post as not supporting extremist views given that he singled out liberals along with religious groups.

Basically he doesn't seem to want any one group to be "established".
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Lets all help the left make a case that 2a supporters are religous zealots. 🤓
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Yes. Moral people require few laws...
That's not how I see it in my Bible. How would you defend this biblically?
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