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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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IT'S A CLEAN SWEEP !!!!
AB1810 Long Gun Registration died on the INACTIVE file on the Senate floor. AB 1934 open carry FAILED on the Assembly floor with no final vote because the Republican leadership ran out the clock to midnight and the constitutional deadline AB 2358 (AB962 expansion) FAILED the final vote on the Senate Floor today 20Yes. - 17 No. SB250 dog bill failed the final Assembly floor vote 27 yes 39 no THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN DEFEATING THESE THREATS TO OUR FREEDOMS! This could not have occurred without all of us working together in a focused effort. I realize that some people tried to distract us from our defense of the Second Amendment by spreading false stories regarding our efforts in defeating these bills. But I also realize that we chose to stand together and ignore the lies, rumors, and innuendo, so that we could win in the end. Many people who visit Calguns.net have signatures that proudly state their membership in NRA and CRPA, and that's great! I wonder why some folks are so opposed to the NRA and CRPA working together in a coordinated and effective manner?!?!?!? Paul
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It is wonderful but it was way too close for comfort, especially with AB1934. This has to be nipped in the bud next year or they will surely pass it then.
Edit: BTW, I agree that it's very important that CGN, NRA, CRPA, and SAF work together on such issues. Last edited by Swiss; 09-01-2010 at 6:11 AM.. |
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Yes, I've been reading all about it in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=337925
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Where can we get a list of those that voted against it so we can thank them?
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NICE .....
What a Great way to start the Day I think I'll go hug my Gun Safe !!
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Out of curiosity... how did SB250 make this list? Are we considering dogs to be "arms" now? I'm not in favor of the bill or anything, just plain curious.
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Hunting dogs?
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Well done!
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exactly what i think. Thanks CGF and everyone for rallying support to protect our rights!
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Good to hear. It's not over I fear, these will raise their ugly heads again. The obvious need of removing many of those who introduce these poor bills is needed, especially DeLeon but in addition, we need to get proactive.
I really tire of endless phone calls and writing to stop a bill, it would be nice to introduce legislation where we can call and encourage the passage of legislation. The type of legislation which guarantees our rights as gun owners, shooting enthusiasts, hunters, and Dog owners.
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The most important thing we all can do to make sure we NEVER have to squeak by like this again is to get more people to join the NRA, CRPA and support w/their time, money, and/or effort CGF.
IMO, "virtual" Shall-Issue is critical to these goals. A LOT of gun owners I know sit on the sidelines because, believe it or not, they don't feel like they've got a vested interest in being politically/financially involved. I bet that once they find out they can apply for and get a CCW, they will. This is true whether they're RKBAist, "sportsmen"/"outdoorsmen"/hunters, target shooters, collectors, or whatever. This is ESPECIALLY true w/people who aren't gun enthusiasts ("gunnies"), but are just average folk who want to be able to defend themselves away from their homes (RNs, store owners, pizza delivery drivers, long haul truckers, tow truck drivers, taxi drivers, etc.). Once they have their CCWs and they find out some pol is against Shall Issue (as well as for AWB, anti hi-cap, etc), they will pay and fight to keep that person out of political power (assembly, senate, AG, lt gov, gov) and judicial authority (judges). This could also spill over to federal elections when national CCW reciprocity comes into play (congress, senate, president).
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Awsome news for the morning.
Thank you guys for all your hard work.
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OK, you and Ed and Tom can go sleep. Get a steak first, though.
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Paul, many thanks to you and all those who rallied and those who voted these down. Maybe we will eventually get our rights back in California and though this is the beginning, I think the tide might just turn. I hope we can get a stay against the original ammo ban bill.
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Benefactor Member NRA, Life Member CRPA, CGN Contributor, US Army Veteran ![]() — Not wasting any more time and energy tilting, Don Quixote-like, on a regulatory problem that, constitutionally, should not even exist in a free state. I cannot change the world unlike my hero Samuel Adams—but I can change my place in it. Gone fishin' for now and soon gone from California. |
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I will continue to speak out on these issues as I beleive they are divisive and counterproductive. |
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Congrats to all (NRA/CRPA/CGN-CGF/SAF), and all of the grass roots members!
We have won another battle, but the war rages on. Prepare for the next battle.
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I went to bed too early (1145) and assumed AB 1934 would be easily amended in the ASSembly. The Republicans were clearly using stalling tactics all day and it paid off. I don't know if Democrats are running scared regarding their own reelections, but I was surprised at many of the votes last night on items such as SB250, AB2358, AB1810 being put in the inactive file (a nice name for the trash can) and AB1998.
It's a liberals worst nightmare; a bunch of gun owners open carrying their handguns and unregistered long guns, carring their newly purchased ammo in a plastic bag while walking their unaltered dog.
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Just when you think all sanity has been lost...
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Awesome great news.... could not have happened on a better day..... Opening day for Dove
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Hi All,
Just my 2 cents: Please don't forget the unrelenting efforts of the RCC members (Responsible Citizens of California) at the Capital these last several weeks. Through hearings, lobbying, personal meetings, letter writting, faxing, calling, and praying (yes praying), these and other folks helped in the defeat of AB1934. Special thanks MUST also go out to the Republicans in the Assembly, especially Chuck Devore! I am a temporarily releaved gun owner in California. Keep the fight alive - REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER! Carry On! Livermoron ![]()
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So, it's a combination of fighting the groups that tend to cause us trouble on other things, while scratching the backs of friendly groups that help us on our things. Ideally, we help them with hunting dogs, and they help us with gun issues that may not be core to "hunting".
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good news to hear.
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