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Old 03-29-2013, 8:10 PM
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I'm looking into getting a good 4x4 vehicle that will be a simple toy in the desert but will also serve as my SHTF vehicle. I had a 90 Jeep Cherokee and loved it, but sold it to a buddy that needed it more than I did at the time. Im thinking about getting another one and really deck it out for the survival mindset. This will be done on a budget, so no 2013 F150 Raptor with flame throwers and machine guns.

Does anyone currently have a great SHTF vehicle or suggestions as to what would be great to start with?
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Toyota 4x4 pickup. 79-85 model with solid front axle. Nearly indestructible.
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Toyota 4x4 pickup. 79-85 model with solid front axle. Nearly indestructible.
X2 this ^^^

Or....

Any Landcruiser
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Any pre 85 toyota 4x4
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Or a 70's model toyota hilux.
Throw a solid axle under it with a 22R, R151, and a set of FJ80 axles and you have yourself a bullet proof rig.

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Or a 70's model toyota hilux.
Throw a solid axle under it with a 22R, R151, and a set of FJ80 axles and you have yourself a bullet proof rig.

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Or a 70's model toyota hilux.
Throw a solid axle under it with a 22R, R151, and a set of FJ80 axles and you have yourself a bullet proof rig.



Love everything about that except for that abomination of a winch mount. Oh, and I while it looks nice the way it is, give me a little more uptravel...
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I'm looking into getting a good 4x4 vehicle that will be a simple toy in the desert but will also serve as my SHTF vehicle. I had a 90 Jeep Cherokee and loved it, but sold it to a buddy that needed it more than I did at the time. Im thinking about getting another one and really deck it out for the survival mindset. This will be done on a budget, so no 2013 F150 Raptor with flame throwers and machine guns.

Does anyone currently have a great SHTF vehicle or suggestions as to what would be great to start with?
You really can't go wrong with an xj. budget boost, 31's fender trimming.

Would help to know if you will be alone or with a family, do you have a trailer to tow, do you have a specific location in mind to head toward, and if so, how far?
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Excuse me whilst I wipe my mouth..
It's a nice truck. Wish it was mine..



OP.. if you're talking serious about a SHTF truck... you need to think about a lot of variables.
I say older truck with a carburetor due to issues you'll have with EFI and a possible EMP.

Every vehicle has its flaws. Maintain it enough and you'll be able to get your use out of it when SHTF.


I just did a valve adjustment on my 99 Tacoma and I'm now expecting another 100K without much issue (she's already at 206K). I have little things needing to be done, but she's doing great for her age.
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I would like my 54 WILLYS to be SHTF vehicle. still needs lots of work. but it will be cool to drive in the summer and for a hunting vehicle.
my current progress

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My ideal fun bug out vehicle is a late 60's early 70's (smog exempt) Toyota FJ40 with a transplanted Chevy 350. It was Toyotas answer to the Jeep just bigger and badder. Basically any of the FJ models from that time would be great.

Second choice would be a similar era Landcruiser.

Two very KISS vehicles that have world wide reputations and support.

I had an 89 jeep Cherokee and it was a money pit. Combination vacumn/electronically controlled vehicle that was way to complicated, thanks and f-you Renault. I had a 4.5" suspension lift, 33" tires, custom bumpers and rock sliders, changed the cooling system, replaced the water pump, alternator, steering pump and every hose, tube and vacumn line. Rebuilt the throttle body. Kept a small box of extra relays. Dana 44 rear end with an ARB with 4.56. Custom exhaust from the headers back. Every time I took it out it worked great, a week later something else gave up the ghost and cost me money. I didn't wheel it hard either, it just wouldn't stay running well.
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F250 7.3 Powerstroke....indestructible, cheap and you can haul crap...use synthetic oil and get 1M miles.
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And in a bind, you can throw veggie oil....I think the oil needs to be heated before it gets into the engine. Throw an aquarium heater in the gas tank
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I was building a 96 honda passport with a 5 speed, 4x4, 3.2l. Gets killer gas mileage and with a 21 gallon tank you have good range. But its simply not built tough. Light off roading at best. Im trading for a 98 tahoe 4x4. I'll be able to haul more stuff and people if needed.
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My go to place is surrounded by hills, but there are suburbs just miles away. we already go 4x4ing in the hills them for fun. no way 2wd makes it over.

My idea SHTF vehicle plan is something I can use to be mobile off major roads, but can also respond to emergencies to my neighbors. responding to attacks and conducting simple patrols. I like a Cherokee style platform because the option to travel with companions and be able to store gear in the rear and roof. Id love some kind of armor plating without it turning into a tank. HMMWV would be ideal but not on my budget. The key is simple but dependable and versatile.
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An F-/250/350
With a 6.9/7.3 idi diesel
Or a Ram 2500/350"
With a 5.9 cummins diesel (6BT 1st gen)

Of course both in, 4x4.
Both of these trucks require only a starter to get up and running, that's the great thing about compression ignition. And you can get 15-22MPG depending in different variables. You'll be able to pull a lot more power out of the cummins if you plan to go that route.
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Early Bronco with a 4bt and d60/14 bolt.
Fits 4 and a decent amount of gear.
Add a roof rack and/or trailer if you want to really load up with the kitchen sink.
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Pre 75 3/4 4X4 truck. Smog exempt, goes everywhere while hauling everything and it's easy to fix.

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Thinking something like this.

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An old Toyota Truck for sure !





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ex military K5 BLAZER diesel 4x4 ....lots of power can buy cheap and build the way YOU want to with what you can aford
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this would be nice if it was affordable
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The engines suck though
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I've got an '07 Rubicon, not the JKU and it will go anywhere. Room however is limited. For a patrol rig take the top off and have 2 stand in the back. I also have a '52 M37 and ideal is to swap with a BT4 diesel which I don't have the money for. The stock straight six at a whopping 98 horses gets about 7MPG but it is geared at 5.83. Pure beast.

That being said, you can't go wrong with an early model Toyota pick up with the straight axle. I'd look there if I didn't have what I do.
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Full sized quad cab long bed diesel 4x4 pickup. Carries a ton of stuff and people and can tow most anything.

The rest are just too small.
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Ford Raptor. I love mine
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Or a 70's model toyota hilux.
Throw a solid axle under it with a 22R, R151, and a set of FJ80 axles and you have yourself a bullet proof rig.

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Just don't bend the rear frame
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I don't want to steal their picture so here is a link to their website. They sell milsurp trucks. NOTE: I don't have any affiliation, just top hit when I google military supply trucks. They have some nice looking rigs for sale though.

http://www.easternsurplus.net/
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West coast mil truck place....
http://www.100dollarman.com/
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Anybody know much about cheap 4x4's on the used market?

Id love a early 90's land cruiser, but they cost a arm and a leg to maintain and guzzle gas. I was looking at Isuzu troopers aswell, they seem pretty good too.
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http://www.100dollarman.com/
Went there. Wasn't that impressed. They did have some reletively cheap and OLDER duece and a halfs starting at about $3k.
Their bobbed deuces were I think 9 grand which was an old one but bobbed. The newer 6x6 duece and a half with auto inflation and automatic transmission was like 13-15k.

Ok, honestly, I don't like SHTF stuff but they had this old duece that was like either a kitchen or command vehicle where it was a big box rear that the sides expanded. I was thinking it could be a tits toy hauler but if someone wanted it for a SHTF rig, you could make a pretty cool living quarters in the back.
Army stick shifts annoy me though. You have to sit way forward, the steering wheel is gigantice, to shift you have to practically lift your left foot a full foot off the ground to engage the clutch.
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