AB 174 is dead

[Swiss]

Assembly bill to seize assault weapons is dead

By Josh Richman
Thursday, March 21st, 2013 at 2:49 pm in Assembly, gun control, Rob Bonta.

One of the most controversial gun-control bills introduced in California this year – a move toward taking the 166,000 registered assault weapons that are grandfathered under the state’s ban – is dead, its author said today.

When Assemblyman Rob Bonta, D-Oakland, introduced AB 174 in January, it declared the Legislature’s intent to end all “grandfather clauses” allowing ownership of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines. The bill was gutted and amended Tuesday to address public-school health centers instead.

Read the rest here:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2013...apons-is-dead/

[Hoop]

They don't need it if they can get SB 47 through.

[madjack956]

The next time an anti asks why you oppose registration, you can cite this instance.

I registered my UZI like a good little citizen, and left myself wide open for confiscation if a law like this was passed.

Live and learn...

NEVER AGAIN!

[MolonLabe2008]

It just sickens me to think that they would even author a bill like this in the first place.

The Democrats have gone full retard all over this country.

Anyone who votes for a Democrat is not a friend of the 2nd Amendment.

[CAL.BAR]

Originally Posted by madjack956

The next time an anti asks why you oppose registration, you can cite this instance.

I registered my UZI like a good little citizen, and left myself wide open for confiscation if a law like this was passed.

Live and learn...

NEVER AGAIN!

Yeah - it's been 25 years since you registered that UZI, you'd think that if they were coming for you, they'd be there already

[CAL.BAR]

Originally Posted by Hoop

They don't need it if they can get SB 47 through.

Exactly! 47 bans everything rather nicely. What's more, it's just been amended. So it looks like they will be running with the best foot forward.

[NoHeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by djandj

Yeah - it's been 25 years since you registered that UZI, you'd think that if they were coming for you, they'd be there already

There's always tomorrow!

[vonderplatz]

Bonta also said he was very aware of the gun lobby’s assertion that any state or national registration of firearms is merely a prelude to confiscation – something his bill actually pursued.

“I didn’t want to have a bill that plays into that argument,” he said. “I wanted to concentrate on some other bills that I thought would be more focused and more effective.”

That crazy gun lobby was actually saying that they wanted to confiscate guns, and he didn't want to play into that argument?

[mmayer707]

^ Only a moron couldn't see through Bonta's argument.

[supermanuf]

Originally Posted by Hoop

They don't need it if they can get SB 47 through.

Yee went down before and he'll go down again... The fight just may be a little longer this time.

[lisinopril]

This is big news! That means you get to keep all of your guns , regardless of whether or not it's AR or AK, right?

Nice!

[Damn True]

^^^ no ^^^

One down ~48 to go.

[lisinopril]

I know...but this is the most craziest bill ever proposed in my opinion!

[AleksandreCz]

I fully expect this to comeback next year. If the new registration bill passes and we all register Or not .
They will have a near complete list of weapons in the state with a ton of money about 35 dollars a gun for confiscations

[Subotai]

Originally Posted by djandj

Yeah - it's been 25 years since you registered that UZI, you'd think that if they were coming for you, they'd be there already

When he dies, the state gets it. Confiscation anyway.

[Damn True]

Originally Posted by frankm

When he dies, the state gets it. Confiscation anyway.

That is a provision that is awfully tough to enforce.

[RonnieP]

Originally Posted by Damn True

That is a provision that is awfully tough to enforce.

How is it tough to enforce? You die, your grieving family gets a letter telling them to turn in your guns or they will be arrested.

[Patagonicus]

Originally Posted by frankm

When he dies, the state gets it. Confiscation anyway.

This is what I prefer to call generational confiscation. If you are unable to legally ever dispossess it to someone else, and the only legal option upon death is a handover to the state, it's certainly confiscation.

[MichaelKent]

Originally Posted by lisinopril

I know...but this is the most craziest bill ever proposed in my opinion!

Perhaps... But the effort to expand "assault weapons" to include virtually every rifle (even the Ruger 10/22) is definitely on about the same level of insanity...

[CDFingers]

I'm glad.

CDFingers

[sl0re10]

Originally Posted by madjack956

The next time an anti asks why you oppose registration, you can cite this instance.

I registered my UZI like a good little citizen, and left myself wide open for confiscation if a law like this was passed.

Live and learn...

NEVER AGAIN!

This law you probably would support if it came up again... but just not own up to.

[P.Charm]

they can only take what they know you have. f em. they get nothing from me.

[sakosf]

This bill may resurrected after registration is required of all firearms in CA. Better chance to get high % of compliance with registration with this bill dead....for now

[P.Charm]

NOT ONE INCH!!!

[tuolumnejim]

Originally Posted by lisinopril

I know...but this is the most craziest bill ever proposed in my opinion!

It's called "bait and switch" for a reason, remain eternally vigilant.

[vmwerks]

80% lowers / end thread

You should have at least 1 for every registered AR you own...

[Wherryj]

Originally Posted by djandj

Yeah - it's been 25 years since you registered that UZI, you'd think that if they were coming for you, they'd be there already

Those who do great evil know patience. Rushing too quickly to confiscate could have backfired on them. Don't worry, they have time...

[P.Charm]

Originally Posted by Wherryj

Those who do great evil know patience. Rushing too quickly to confiscate could have backfired on them. Don't worry, they have time...

yeah, they are killing us softly.

[Wiz-of-Awd]

Originally Posted by lisinopril

I know...but this is the most craziest bill ever proposed in my opinion!

"Most craziest" indeed...

A.W.D.

[Damn True]

Originally Posted by RonnieP

How is it tough to enforce? You die, your grieving family gets a letter telling them to turn in your guns or they will be arrested.

To which they reply, "What gun? We cleared out Grand-pappy's house and didn't find any gun."

[ipse dixit]

Originally Posted by MolonLabe2008

It just sickens me to think that they would even author a bill like this in the first place.

The Democrats have gone full retard all over this country.

Anyone who votes for a Democrat is not a friend of the 2nd Amendment.

They went to 10 on the retard scale, but I'm pretty sure the scale goes up to at least 11. I'm pretty sure they're working hard behind the scenes on a way to make the scale go up a lot higher than that, as well.

[BHPFan]

Originally Posted by Born To Glock

They went to 10 on the retard scale, but I'm pretty sure the scale goes up to at least 11. I'm pretty sure they're working hard behind the scenes on a way to make the scale go up a lot higher than that, as well.

When it gets on a higher scale than retarded, it's f*cktarded.

[madjack956]

Originally Posted by djandj

Yeah - it's been 25 years since you registered that UZI, you'd think that if they were coming for you, they'd be there already

Actually, I trusted them at their word. At the time, they said register and you can keep it. Get caught with it unregistered and you will lose it.

I did what the law required, not thinking that some fool would come around 25 years later and try to pass a bill to confiscate it.

So, the moral of the story is as I see it, don't register your guns, because no matter how much time passes, the powers that be cannot be trusted with a confiscation list in their hand.

[nrvnqsrxk]

The way I see it, if a kid tells you they don't want to eat ice cream, but just want to hold it it in their hands....

Doesn't pass the smell test.

[mshill]

This guy gives idiots a bad name. Are there any registered voters in his district? How in the world did he get elected?

“It would be extremely expensive, for one – if you were going to take back guns that have were grandfathered in, you would have to provide market compensation for them,” he said. “I didn’t think that made the most sense from a fiscal perspective.”

He acts as if the government gave them to people, so they think they can actually be taken.

I think he is being groomed for a future VP. You just can't fix stupid.

[pMcW]

So, AB174 (or rather the 2A-related changes to the law that it proposed) died by "gut and amend", right? Does anything stop them from re-gut and re-amending it back?

It just seems so ridiculous how they can just do this to change bills entirely:

Open bill > CTRL+A > DELETE > CTRL+V > SAVE

[RonnieP]

Originally Posted by Damn True

To which they reply, "What gun? We cleared out Grand-pappy's house and didn't find any gun."

Do you honestly think they'll buy that excuse? The grieving family will be subject to searches and intimidation.

[CBruce]

Originally Posted by Swiss

Assembly bill to seize assault weapons is dead

By Josh Richman
Thursday, March 21st, 2013 at 2:49 pm in Assembly, gun control, Rob Bonta.

One of the most controversial gun-control bills introduced in California this year – a move toward taking the 166,000 registered assault weapons that are grandfathered under the state’s ban – is dead, its author said today.

When Assemblyman Rob Bonta, D-Oakland, introduced AB 174 in January, it declared the Legislature’s intent to end all “grandfather clauses” allowing ownership of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines. The bill was gutted and amended Tuesday to address public-school health centers instead.

Read the rest here:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2013...apons-is-dead/

Of course it's dead. You've got to get everyone to *register* before you make it illegal. Otherwise how will you know where to send the letters demanding they surrender their now illegal property?

Registration now. Repeal after the next mass shooting. Think, McFly!

[stix213]

One small step forward

[chris]

good to hear. but I tell you this is the end game for these A************************************************* ************************************ they want this and it was let out. let us not forget this bill at all. this bill will be back in some form or another. that is just one down and so many more to defeat.