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we at norse armory are currently working on getting on our sot and will be building S12 AOWs for california. We have already designed and started cutting flats for them
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Now that we are gettting public-friendly NFA dealers in CA, I figure I need to make a list of them. It was pretty easy when there was just one, now that there are at least three of them, a list is best. I would have liked to put this in my OP, but there isn't any room left in it. I should have did a placeholder post right after it, my bad. If anybody is aware of any that I didn't list, let me know and I'll update the list.
public-friendly NFA dealers/manufacturers. SoCal O.C. Armory 01/03 FFL & OLL Friendly 23012 Del Lago Dr Suite B Laguna Hills, Ca. 92653 (949) 768-5189 Ten Percent firearms 01FFL/03SOT 1277 Kern St. Taft, CA 93268 Phone: 661 765-6899 Fax: 661 765-9355 NorCal Tracy Rifle and Pistol 01FFL/03SOT 2726 Naglee Rd Tracy Ca 95304 209 833-9100 Valkyrie Arms 07 FFL, 02 SOT 1751 Houret ct. Milpitas CA, 95035 ph (408)957-0600 Fax.(408)957-0666 Norse Armory 07FFL (future SOT) Woodland, CA
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I just want one of these! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=206431110
An 8" barreled S12 would be fun and it sounds like we have a couple of companies working to give us the option! |
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I will have a talk with Direct Action Solutions in San Diego next time I am up there. They have a front-end retail shop, but also manufacture suppressors.
I would assume they have an 07FFL/02SOT, don't think they are a 10FFL. I would assume that 07 would allow them to deal also in Title 1 firearms for the retail side, and they would not also need an 01.
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Just to verify, it would appear after reading through this that a privately held California corporation can acquire an AOW as well without CLEO sign off, correct? This would save me a bit of money since I already have one formed. Myself and my wife are the only officers/employees.
Additionally, an AOW Saiga 12 as mentioned above is not a pistol, a shotgun or centerfire rifle Federally. A mag lock would still be required for compliance since Cali still considers it a shotgun with detachable mag, correct? A bit confused on this. Thanks. . . . .
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correct, as a legal entity, a corp can acquire an NFA firearm without having to get CLEO sign-off or need to supply fingerprints or photos. Just like a trust. Actually, the "corp exemption" has been used for a long time, with it just recently being figured out in the last ~5 years that trusts were exempt as well.
You just dont' hear about people using the corp exemption as much in CA since the yearly corp tax is something like $800 per year, and you have to keep the corp valid as long as you own the NFA item. Whereas, with a trust, it is basically a one-time fee to have the trust drawn up.
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Excellent! How about the S12 AOW question? Any thoughts? Thanks.
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CA would consider it to be a pistol, so you have to comply with the SBS regs (by having it papered as an AOW), the shotgun AW regs (fixed mag), pistol AW regs (fixed mag <11-rounds), and the handgun roster applies as well (so it must be DROSed as a single-shot pistol).
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Interesting. I'll have to ponder this further...
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positively evil
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for the Saiga12 AOW posted above?
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Oh my. That is beyond cool.
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K. Got a C&R SBS question. So we know that recently the ATF has decided that by doing a Form 1 on a C&R shotgun it removes its C&R status. How does this decision affect SBS built on C&R receivers built prior to the memo? Are they still C&Rs?
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You can make small minor changes that don't modify the appearance. For instance, if you get a M1 Garand with a totally beat-to-crap stock, you can replace the stock with a brand new one, as long as it's the original style, and it would still be considered a C&R.
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looks like someone in MI just got a C&R SBS Form 1 approval, so they are still allowing them "sometimes",
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PM sent, read it over and let me know what you think.
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That MI SBS, anyone know what model it was?
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This should be legally fought. I think it's a convenient interpretation by the ATF.
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But nothing on the Form 1 states it's a C&R correct? So basically, even though ATF approved it, it could still lose it's C&R status when he Form 1'd it. Sorry, I don't know the details so just making assumptions.
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At the risk of beating a dead horse (but I didn't find it when I quickly skimmed through 32 pages of this thread), how long is the entire process from start to finish when getting a trust? In other words, from the time you get the trust started (how long is that process?) to when you order the AOW and wait for it, approx how many months has been the average?
Also, if you get the trust, does this mean you can use that same trust on future AOW firearms? And if you can, does this mean the wait time is cut down quite a bit since you've already jumped through the hoops with your first AOW? |
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got a cool letter today that states that mounting an AOW under a rifle does not change the classification of the AOW into an SBS, and does not affect the rifle either.
I'll try to get some pics of the letter up tomorrow. But here is the jist of the letter: Quote:
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Time for a Remington MCS
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Very cool! Looking forward to seeing your next project.
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figured you'd like it.
basically just trying to duplicate the "Masterkey" setup with a "Super Shorty" AOW. Everyone said that the rifle's shoulder stock turned the AOW into an SBS. ATF said otherwise.
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DOJ won't care about this configuration I assume?
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