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Old 11-01-2017, 5:25 PM
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I applied twice for the position of Computer Technician annoucement. The first being cancelled, then re-openend ( within days of each other) I was given a email to reapply. So I did then I was finally marked as " incomplete" status. I'm sure "Bob" was given priority for this position it was a job on base with a computer library.

Has anyone ever obtained actual employment from this site? I re-rechecked all my supporting doucments and I re-read the announcement and can't understand why I was given a " incomplete status". Ha.
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Old 11-01-2017, 8:55 PM
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Applied over 100 jobs and no luck from that website. I have applied few jobs from local city and county official website and got myself a job afterwards.
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Old 11-01-2017, 9:06 PM
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Preselection is not legal.

It's also the norm. Easy to tweak the job announcement to fit the guy you want, and when a better candidate gets through the initial selection you close the announcement before the end date, discard the packets you have then re-announce.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:27 PM
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Yup I applied through there and work at the VA now. Everything has to be perfect or else they'll disqualify you or mark as in incomplete I believe. I know when I applied it gave explicit instructions and if it wasn't followed to the T they wouldn't even bother. It functions like any other job too I believe. They could have someone In mind already but they gotta post the job as a formality to say it's open even though it's essentially already guaranteed to someone else.
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Old 11-02-2017, 1:34 AM
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There is a real trick to getting jobs from there. Most of the time the postings have dates, if they are short, that mostly means they already have someone in mind internally. Aside from that, the main thing is to get your resume seen by a human. So what you need to do is answer all the questions as you are an expert in every field. this will get you past the electronic screening process and send your resume to a human. After that you need to play to your strengths.

I currently am enlisted in the Army, but i have sat on a number of Hiring boards and interviews for job positions in my shop. USAjobs is a pain but it can be very lucrative if you get in.
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Old 11-02-2017, 5:45 AM
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All said above is true. What I tell people trying to get gov jobs is basically write your resume to where every qualification they have you have done in one way or another. Pretty much copy their posting and insert your experiences doing exactly those things. That way when some HR person who barely knows anything about the actual job sees it you look like the perfect candidate. They see 100’s-1000’s of apps and if it doesn’t look like your near perfect for the job it gets tossed. My HR told me there was over 1000 apps for my 1 job and they only interviewed 10 based on experience and qualifications.

With many of these job search websites It also helps to find the job then go directly to the city, county, federal website and find the posting there to apply so it doesn’t get lost in the shuffle.

Also check Indeed.com and setup email alerts for specific job titles and locations. Good luck.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:31 PM
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I have attended seminars, studied and prepped for a promotional interview, nailed it, and discovered later that the candidate was pre-selected and the whole “selection process” was just theater for civil service compliance rules. An infuriating waste of my time and I am glad they have changed the process in my organization to stop that shammery.
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I have attended seminars, studied and prepped for a promotional interview, nailed it, and discovered later that the candidate was pre-selected and the whole “selection process” was just theater for civil service compliance rules. An infuriating waste of my time and I am glad they have changed the process in my organization to stop that shammery.

This is correct. I can attest that agencies are mandated to post a job publicly before filling the positions. Many times a candidate has already been decided.

You have to get your foot in the door via other means first. Agencies will almost always hire from internal pools before external.
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I have attended seminars, studied and prepped for a promotional interview, nailed it,

and discovered later that the candidate was pre-selected and the whole “selection process” was just theater for civil service compliance rules.

An infuriating waste of my time and I am glad they have changed the process in my organization to stop that shammery.
This is the norm in the CA state hiring process.

Sat on many hiring committees that had already selected a candidate before any of the interviews had even been held.

Recommendations of the committees were often completely ignored at the next level.

Where an option, they would often conduct phone interviews to make the sham less inconvenient for everyone involved...
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:09 PM
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This is correct. I can attest that agencies are mandated to post a job publicly before filling the positions. Many times a candidate has already been decided.

You have to get your foot in the door via other means first. Agencies will almost always hire from internal pools before external.
That's why you have to look at how long the job posting is open for. If it is a short window that means, most likly the job is going to be given to an internal hire. You really need to just blank apply to hundreds of jobs on USAjobs. Also it might help to have 3-4 different resumes on there that very in verbiage. I can tell you now, theres alot of jobs open for OCONUS as well as DC. given the state of Affairs, everyone will get hired if they apply to a job in Korea atm. There is a mass exodus of Civilian jobs lol
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