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Old 01-27-2017, 11:54 AM
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My son has been looking at the Navy as an option. He's almost 22, smart, not very physical.

He got a 99 on the ASVAB.

What's the rest of the recruitment process?

Any do's or don'ts from you experienced guys?

Any and all help will be appreciated.

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99 asvab score...can do pretty much anything he wants. SEAL teams are always looking for smart, physical candidates.
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Look at MOS's/NEC/AFSC for the various branch. Where does his interest lie? Find something he is qualified for. If his heart is set on one path go for it.

If the recruiter balks about it IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, walk out the door. PERIOD. Do not get sucked into "well we have no slots" If that is the case, and it could be, walk out the door and tell him to call when it opens.

If he is not very physical, he needs to get with it, post haste or he WILL struggle and will not be the gray man.

If he does not have a degree take advantage of DANTES and or CLEP. Free for active duty. Not sure what it is? Search the web. College units by examination, most are pass/fail.
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99 asvab score...can do pretty much anything he wants. SEAL teams are always looking for smart, physical candidates.
He's not a good candidate for the SEAL team. :/

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Look at MOS's/NEC/AFSC for the various branch. Where does his interest lie? Find something he is qualified for. If his heart is set on one path go for it.

If the recruiter balks about it IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, walk out the door. PERIOD. Do not get sucked into "well we have no slots" If that is the case, and it could be, walk out the door and tell him to call when it opens.

If he is not very physical, he needs to get with it, post haste or he WILL struggle and will not be the gray man.

If he does not have a degree take advantage of DANTES and or CLEP. Free for active duty. Not sure what it is? Search the web. College units by examination, most are pass/fail.
Thank you. Lot's of acronyms for me to look up. The recruiter is picking him up on Sunday, and taking him overnight somewhere. It looks like he still will need to take the smaller "confirmation ASVAB".

As to his physicality, he's the thin/lean type. 5'11", 140ish, ran cross country well, but not very strong or coordinated at all.

He is in Ann Arbor ATM, so this helps a lot, since I am not there to ask questions directly.
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Lol, sorry, I read very physical....missed "not"
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I took the ASVAB in 1985 and scored highest in word knowledge. One of the jobs the Navy offered was Linguistics Specialist: Russian Code Decipherer. I think they are Cryptologists now.
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With a 99 AFQT score and being 22, your son is well above the average score and around the middle of the average age spread for recruits. The key to the enlistment process is: what interests him? Between personal experience, and friends in other rates (jobs), I'm familiar with most of the rates he's likely to be offered, and can help remove the "recruiting" from any job description he's given. A few basics to advise him on:

- NOTHING is guaranteed unless in writing!

- DO NOT GO PACT (Undesignated)!!!!!!!!

- Don't let the recruiters bully him into signing a contract... it's his life; not theirs

- Don't sign for a job just because it sounds cool... any job is going to be made to sound like the most awesome thing imaginable by recruiters

- Consider quality of life and technical skills when picking a job... security clearances (Especially Top Secret/SCI w/Polygraph) can be very marketable with a lot of companies; some of which may surprise you... a guy from my squadron was a radar operator and just got out to go work for Apple because they needed someone with Special Access Program eligibility.

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my nephew got a similar score and is more of a nerd that an athlete. he is now a fire controlman and learning a lot of things that will help him when he completes his service.
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Some questions might help....
Officer (ROTC/Academy) or Enlisted?
Prefer ship duty or shore?
Ships, subs or planes?
Electronics, medical or something more physical?
Likely to stay in or get out and use GI bill?

Drone pilot, nuclear tech, avionics, fire control (weapons guidance)

I was in the same situation when I graduated in '88. I became a Corpsman and specialized (tons of specialties from Radiology tech, Lab tech, Nuc Med tech, Combat medic with the Marines etc). Many of these prepare him for a career after the service. Never went on a ship. Missed out and should have in hindsight.
Electronics translates the best probably.
He will get the C school he wants. Should guarantee it when he signs. Likely to get E4 right out of school with 6 year enlistment.


Three bits of advice from me: try to get into Annapolis. I chose not to and it's the biggest mistake in my life. Being an officer with the ring will set him up for life, could even command a ship eventually if that's what he wants. Second, Go for the life experience, not the cushy duty stations. Get out of the States! Third, while you can change rates, the only time you have any bargaining power is before you enlist. Pick something that will set him up for after the Navy.

Good luck! The service is a really great way to get started! The more people he can talk to, the better! That will Get him ready for boot camp and the fleet!
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The difficult part now is that the Navy has done away with all of their enlisted titles. I retired back in 2010 but advancement and ratings have gone through a major overhaul so while we can give some advise, the system does not work like it did when many of us had been in the Navy.
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If he has ANY interest in LE, especially Maritime, look HARD at the USCG. There is no one better, especially at drug interdiction. They are studs a waterborne rescue as well.

Motor Life Boat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47-foot_Motor_Lifeboat

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Navy has rates and they were going to do away with them but that plan was shelved.

https://www.navytimes.com/articles/r...ob-titles-back
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Had not seen the new change, now if they could only fix the advancement system.
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The difficult part now is that the Navy has done away with all of their enlisted titles. I retired back in 2010 but advancement and ratings have gone through a major overhaul so while we can give some advise, the system does not work like it did when many of us had been in the Navy.
Wrong, they rescinded that order. Rates/titles are back
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Tell the recruiters he intends to go Officer but needs to finish school.

So short handed they may plunk him straight away in a College!
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Ya go officer route. If not go nuke. If he fails out of nuke (which there is a high failure rate) then they bump him down to ET or FC school depending how far he got.
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ET, FC, or IT are good rates if he does not want to go nuke or fails out of it.
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My son has been looking at the Navy as an option. He's almost 22, smart, not very physical.

He got a 99 on the ASVAB.

What's the rest of the recruitment process?

Any do's or don'ts from you experienced guys?

Any and all help will be appreciated.

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I took the ASVAB in 1985 and scored highest in word knowledge. One of the jobs the Navy offered was Linguistics Specialist: Russian Code Decipherer. I think they are Cryptologists now.
My niece has been in going on 20 years. Chinese Linguist. Much more interesting than it sounds.
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I did electronic warfare. Great schools.
Now rolled into crypto field I believe.

Go into the crypto field
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Now rolled into crypto field I believe.
EW on the aviation side is covered by AWO and AWV rates... though the AWV's are converting to AWO within the next year or so as VQ-1 prepares to disestablish.
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With a 99 AFQT score and being 22, your son is well above the average score and around the middle of the average age spread for recruits. The key to the enlistment process is: what interests him? Between personal experience, and friends in other rates (jobs), I'm familiar with most of the rates he's likely to be offered, and can help remove the "recruiting" from any job description he's given. A few basics to advise him on:

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- Consider quality of life and technical skills when picking a job... security clearances (Especially Top Secret/SCI w/Polygraph) can be very marketable with a lot of companies; some of which may surprise you... a guy from my squadron was a radar operator and just got out to go work for Apple because they needed someone with Special Access Program eligibility.

Any other questions you have, just ask... someone here should be able to answer.
THIS is a great summary of what we've learned. Still reading down thread.
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Check out navydep.com lot's of great info. Research before signing. Don't let the detailer force him to sign something he doesn't like. But if it was me, I'd pick nuke school. Lots of my nuke friends are now leading the career race in the navy. Not going to be easy though. Good luck. Any questions let us know.

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- Don't let the recruiter bully him.
- Don't be surprised if the recruiter lies to him. He's trying to fill a quota under the threat of going back to sea if he doesn't. Your son is a number in that system.
- Everything in writing.
- Everything in writing.
- If it's not in writing, it doesn't exist.
- Like buying a car. Be willing to walk/take a cool off period. DO NOT allow the recruiter to rush him.
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- Once he gets to A School, call his detailer and start shopping for his next assignment.
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Thanks everyone for the info / comments.

He going in for 6 years, enlisted, in the nuke program, as an Electronics Technicians (ET)

https://www.navy.com/careers/nuclear...sponsibilities
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Thanks everyone for the info / comments.

He going in for 6 years, enlisted, in the nuke program, as an Electronics Technicians (ET)

https://www.navy.com/careers/nuclear...sponsibilities


Jk... sort of, lol. Nuke is not an easy training pipeline... or life... but it is highly marketable in the civilian sector for obvious reasons. Advancement is also always easy since most get out after their initial contract is up.

Let me know if you or he has any questions... I know EMn, MMn, and ENn folks who made it through training (And a few who didn't). I also dated a chick who was going through training and is now an EMn2 on a carrier.
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It's not too late!! Have him talk to a Coast Guard recruiter, he can still change his mind!!
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My son has been looking at the Navy as an option. He's almost 22, smart, not very physical.

He got a 99 on the ASVAB.

What's the rest of the recruitment process?

Any do's or don'ts from you experienced guys?

Any and all help will be appreciated.

Thanks
99 on the ASVAB is outstanding. Congrats. I would pick the Marines and request White House detail. Do one tour there, make friends, relations and then immediately apply for the US Secret Service uniformed division upon separation from service. Your foot is in the door. A couple of my friends did just that and have been with the Secret Service for over 20 years. That's of course if your ultimate decision is federal law enforcement.

A couple things. Get everything in writing. Recruiters have been known to lie. Mine did. By the time I graduated BC he had just retired. So I was kinda upset but life went on. I had a wonderful 20+ years in the service.
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99 on the ASVAB is outstanding. Congrats. I would pick the Marines and request White House detail. Do one tour there, make friends, relations and then immediately apply for the US Secret Service uniformed division upon separation from service. Your foot is in the door. A couple of my friends did just that and have been with the Secret Service for over 20 years. That's of course if your ultimate decision is federal law enforcement.

A couple things. Get everything in writing. Recruiters have been known to lie. Mine did. By the time I graduated BC he had just retired. So I was kinda upset but life went on. I had a wonderful 20+ years in the service.
THX, He ships out in April, probably, for a 6 year stint. Nuke program. I think he'll be starting as an E3.
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THX, He ships out in April, probably, for a 6 year stint. Nuke program. I think he'll be starting as an E3.
He will get automatic E-3 out of Basic... then automatic E-4 (Petty Officer 3rd Class) out of A-School which will be 3-6 months depending on what rate he gets. Then he'll do Power School which I think was 3 months... and then he'll either stay in Goose Creek, SC or go up to Ballston Spa, NY for Prototype School. If he stays in SC, he'll work on the S5W reactor which is inside two decommissioned Lafayette-class ballistic missile subs tied to the pier; if he goes to NY, he'll work on a S6W reactor that are installed in a research lab.

After Prototype, he will have the option of reenlisting for 2 more years and getting automatic E-5 (Petty Officer 2nd Class)... expect him to be in training for at least 2 years.
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Navy or Airforce, less chance of getting KIA. Ship life basically sucks, so Airforce makes the most sense. In any event, focus on electronic and cyber warfare. Become an NCO with high security clearance ASAP. Put in 20 years. When he gets out, military contractors will be all over him with job offers. Every retired E9 I know us working for Raytheon or Norththop Grumman make good coin and a full pension.
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Old 03-26-2017, 2:31 PM
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Yeh, don't go Chair Force.

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He will get automatic E-3 out of Basic... then automatic E-4 (Petty Officer 3rd Class) out of A-School which will be 3-6 months depending on what rate he gets. Then he'll do Power School which I think was 3 months... and then he'll either stay in Goose Creek, SC or go up to Ballston Spa, NY for Prototype School. If he stays in SC, he'll work on the S5W reactor which is inside two decommissioned Lafayette-class ballistic missile subs tied to the pier; if he goes to NY, he'll work on a S6W reactor that are installed in a research lab.

After Prototype, he will have the option of reenlisting for 2 more years and getting automatic E-5 (Petty Officer 2nd Class)... expect him to be in training for at least 2 years.
Some "A" schools are as short as 2 months or self paced even faster and we have some as long as 6-10 months and then they goto "C" schools after that so reality is schools can last way over a year. That's why we PCS our junior folks there.
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- Don't let the recruiter bully him.
- Don't be surprised if the recruiter lies to him. He's trying to fill a quota under the threat of going back to sea if he doesn't. Your son is a number in that system.
- Everything in writing.
- Everything in writing.
- If it's not in writing, it doesn't exist.
- Like buying a car. Be willing to walk/take a cool off period. DO NOT allow the recruiter to rush him.
- Have him watch Private Benjamin.
- Once he gets to A School, call his detailer and start shopping for his next assignment.
Yes to go slow.
In writing doesn't always mean squat. More test in BC and they can say, "I don't care. This is what you are best for."
Took a year and a half plus a U.S. Senator to finally get what I was promised.
Most times it's smooth, but be prepared!
BTW- Chiefs call detailer; Seaman and PO3 can wind up in the boonies!

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Old 03-29-2017, 6:57 AM
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DO NOT LET HIM SIGN UP FOR SUBMARINE DUTY NO MATTER WHAT!!!
They do not surrender, if you know what I mean.
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