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Old 04-20-2018, 6:52 AM
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This is an extreme example, and there are a lot details missing from the story, but it illustrates the importance of having a firearm at the ready for defense.

Seven, count them: SEVEN home invaders are stopped by two residents with an AR 15 and 9mm handgun.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...sion-suspects/

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Thanks for everybody's input, thoughts and suggestions.

Gonna stick with G34 and Mossy 500....
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I keep my Sp2022 .40sw with a Inforce apl in a holster with one in the chamber. I also keep a Keltec KSG loaded with double ought buck. No round chambered.
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My Smith and Wesson 627 8 shot 357 Magnum.
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G19 with two additional mags (124 gr +p HST) and a 590A1 (00 Federal Flitecontrol until I can source some #1)
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Escort TacStock 2 .20g loaded with #3 Buck and Ruger LCRX .22 with 8rds of Stingers
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I keep either an XD45 Tactical or XDs 45 on my night stand and my Shockwave near by.

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Old 04-21-2018, 11:46 PM
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G21, full mag and one in the pipe. 2 mags, case is open during sleepy time.
Also have my Sp2022 .40sw nearby, loaded as well.

May change things up when I move to a free state.
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The same pistol that I carry during the day (Sig p938 extreme, cocked and locked, 7 rds of 124gr JHP) goes on the nightstand next to me when I go to bed.
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I have neighbors, and family in the bedrooms on either side of me.

I keep a shotgun loaded with #4. Will discourage any bad guys, but hopefully wont go into the next room or my neighbors house.
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Cheap 1911 I don’t mind handing to the cops after I neutralize the intruder.
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Cheap 1911 I donít mind handing to the cops after I neutralize the intruder.
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Glock 20. It was a cheap PPT and I won't lose any sleep if it sits in an evidence locker for a couple of years if I have to put a perp down.
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I have my Charter Undercover in a bedside safe that can be opened in 1.5 seconds or something. I've got better, more potent guns, but the woman is most comfortable with this one and I work midnights. I figure with this, she'll have a fighting chance to survive whereas with any other gun she wouldn't think to get it out to protect herself.
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Berretta 92fs and 4 mags, 12 gauge winchester 1300.
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One thing I have taken from this...I'm going to swap to #4 buckshot for my shotty...don't want to overpenetrate and hit my family

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Keep the Mossy,.. 12g gives you the opportunity to not be exactly on target within a hallway.
Thats one of the biggest myths in home defense history...

Also any shotgun load other then #7 birdshot will go through multiple walls. Tests dont lie.

My buddy used to do home demo, and remodeling. He would take pieces of actual house walls at every job to test, and since he knew how to build homes he would make exactly what home walls were required. There wasn't any shotgun load that would stop going through a wall.
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:19 PM
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One thing I have taken from this...I'm going to swap to #4 buckshot for my shotty...don't want to overpenetrate and hit my family



Thanks CG


Then donít shoot at your family... that is the ONLY effective method of controlling potentially lethal over penetration of walls. Not easy you say? Make a better plan with your family...


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I wanted to ask opinions on what you guys keep by the bed as a nighttime bedroom gun?

My instant open bio safe has a G34 and 3 mags and I keep a Mossberg 500 with a light attached within arms reach

Question is this - Do I swap out the Mossberg for my new Ruger PC9 carbine which takes the same mags as my G34? I will need to add a light if so

Or....Is the Shotgun with 00 Buckshot a way better tool for dispatching scumbags?

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20ga h&r single shot shotgun loaded with #5 gameshot. i can work a single reliably fast. my townhouse apartment is old and narrow, at max indoor defense range of 10Ē this setup should be effective. i will be only out $120 if police take it after a shooting. if somebody breaks in iím staying upstairs and calling 911. paul harrell did a video two years ago on birdshot for defense and found it to be useful: https://youtu.be/zaR1EVybUgc




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I have a Glock in almost every room in my house (except the kids rooms).

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Have never understood the goal of making the gun that saves your life or familyís life as cheap as possible just because the cops will take it after. Itís like making your vehicle, seatbelt, childs car seat, as cheap as possible because they are all useless after a total loss high speed accident. Misguided.


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Have never understood the goal of making the gun that saves your life or familyís life as cheap as possible just because the cops will take it after. Itís like making your vehicle, seatbelt, childs car seat, as cheap as possible because they are all useless after a total loss high speed accident. Misguided.


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Its not really about using as cheap as possible. Its more about being sensible. A $500 Glock protects as well as a $2500 Les Baer. But one you show your friends, one you show your enemy.

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a G34 and 3 mags and I keep a Mossberg 500 with a light attached within arms reach
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....Is the Shotgun with 00 Buckshot a way better tool for dispatching scumbags?
Good grief, what part of the SF Bay Area are you in??? Hunter's Point?!

I've lived in the Bay Area my entire life and have never felt the need to be armed while at home. Even in San Jose, the armpit of the South Bay, I don't have anything within arms reach, and there are gang members in my building.

But just for sake of this thread, let's pretend that I did keep a gun by the bed. No way would I put 00 Buck in my Mossberg 500. Birdshot, sure, but not something heavy enough to pass through walls and into a neighbors house or apartment unit.

If I lived out in the country and my nearest neighbor was at least 50 yards away, I might take the chance, but you're not going to find that kind of room/space in the Bay Area.

And have you considered what's going to happen if you discharge a gun in an enclosed space, like a hallway or living room? You're going to go deaf, and possibly be unable to pull the trigger a second time. It's not like it is in the movies.

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20ga h&r single shot shotgun loaded with #5 gameshot. i can work a single reliably fast. my townhouse apartment is old and narrow, at max indoor defense range of 10Ē this setup should be effective. i will be only out $120 if police take it after a shooting. if somebody breaks in iím staying upstairs and calling 911. paul harrell did a video two years ago on birdshot for defense and found it to be useful: https://youtu.be/zaR1EVybUgc
That's a good video... thanks!
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Good grief, what part of the SF Bay Area are you in??? Hunter's Point?!

I've lived in the Bay Area my entire life and have never felt the need to be armed while at home. Even in San Jose, the armpit of the South Bay, I don't have anything within arms reach, and there are gang members in my building.

But just for sake of this thread, let's pretend that I did keep a gun by the bed.
I see....criminals only rob in bad neighborhoods like Hunter's Point..

Sounds like you leave your's and your family's personal security to the cops...good luck with that....when seconds count and all that?
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I rotate them. Most of the time it's a Mossy 500.
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Good grief, what part of the SF Bay Area are you in??? Hunter's Point?!

I've lived in the Bay Area my entire life and have never felt the need to be armed while at home. Even in San Jose, the armpit of the South Bay, I don't have anything within arms reach, and there are gang members in my building.

But just for sake of this thread, let's pretend that I did keep a gun by the bed. No way would I put 00 Buck in my Mossberg 500. Birdshot, sure, but not something heavy enough to pass through walls and into a neighbors house or apartment unit.

If I lived out in the country and my nearest neighbor was at least 50 yards away, I might take the chance, but you're not going to find that kind of room/space in the Bay Area.

And have you considered what's going to happen if you discharge a gun in an enclosed space, like a hallway or living room? You're going to go deaf, and possibly be unable to pull the trigger a second time. It's not like it is in the movies.
That's what everyone says until it happens to them. In the 90s in Korea Town the crime was not high and we felt no need for firearms, no home on our block got broken in to for years. Until the Rodney King riots occurred, it was the most terrifying week, every day was dark because the smoke from the burned homes and buildings covered the skies like clouds. When I called 911 for over 30 minutes and finally got ahold of someone, her exact words were "sorry hunny, no one's going to be able to come help anytime soon," and she hung up. No police came to our city for five days. One lone handgun did not deter the group of 10 trying to break in buy the neighbors M1A rifle in 308 did.
Just the other day I had to call 911 and the response time was 12 minutes. It's not the police's fault they're spread so thin, but it would be dillusional to always expect them to pop up within seconds when you need them.
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And have you considered what's going to happen if you discharge a gun in an enclosed space, like a hallway or living room? You're going to go deaf, and possibly be unable to pull the trigger a second time. It's not like it is in the movies.

Nonsense and FUD. Yes possible hearing loss and Tinnitus results, but not likely immediately deaf. With almost certainty not effecting abilities to react and pull the trigger again due to auditory exclusion occurring (ref Lt. Col. Grossman ďOn CombatĒ). The mind ignores what is not necessary to fight or flight instinct under conditions of high stress.

Many people have fired guns inside with no damage as well, it all depends. But would you rather be dead or have a little ringing in your ears? That is the question.


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And have you considered what's going to happen if you discharge a gun in an enclosed space, like a hallway or living room? You're going to go deaf, and possibly be unable to pull the trigger a second time. It's not like it is in the movies.
I'd venture to guess that thousands of combat troops would disagree. Even if it was true, the alternative is to not shoot...which is worse than possible hearing damage, so I'd take the hearing damage.

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Even in San Jose, the armpit of the South Bay, I don't have anything within arms reach, and there are gang members in my building.
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But just for sake of this thread, let's pretend that I did keep a gun by the bed. No way would I put 00 Buck in my Mossberg 500. Birdshot, sure, but not something heavy enough to pass through walls and into a neighbors house or apartment unit.
You should research some more.
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