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Old 10-12-2017, 10:48 AM
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You guys have or had bad guns!

S&W 22A - never can get through a 10 mag without jamming.

Remington 597 rifle - worse mag spring ever. Jams every few rounds. Still have this in the back of the safe.

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I have a 597, never had any problems what so ever with it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:57 AM
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You guys have or had bad guns!

S&W 22A - never can get through a 10 mag without jamming.

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S&W 22A - never can get through a 10 mag without jamming.
My daughter's favorite. Accurate and reliable for me. It's one of the pistols I use when I take new shooters to the range and I have never had a malfunction. Try replacing the recoil spacer https://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...prod15057.aspx and recoil spring https://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...prod15058.aspx


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Springfield M1A National Match rifle. This gun was a complete POS.

Colt Anaconda 4" 44 mag revolver.


I have a 22A that works great.




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SiG P226 Mk 25. The gun was bad enough, but the attitude of SiG customer service was worse. "Obviously, you don't know how to shoot our gun."

Dumped it after four weeks.
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Springfield M1A National Match rifle. This gun was a complete POS.
I'll take it $100 FTF. I pay fees.
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Maybe it's the ammo?






Of course any maker could put out a lemon occasionally, if there isn't good quality control.
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About 10 years ago, a buddy & I both bought new Remington 597's. Both wouldn't function more than three or four rounds. Constant feeding & ejection failures and (as you mentioned), rounds stuck halfway down the magazine. Mine started going full auto.

After a failed factory fix, I wrote to Remington & they gave us both full refunds.
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No. I have owned/shot more than 50 handguns.

The only negative experience I had was that the previous owner replaced the original GI guide rod assembly with a two-piece unit on his 1911. It came loose every other shot. It was not the gun.
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Springfield M1A National Match rifle. This gun was a complete POS.
Limp-wristing?
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SiG P226 Mk 25. The gun was bad enough, but the attitude of SiG customer service was worse. "Obviously, you don't know how to shoot our gun."
This makes me very happy that I never bought a Sig. Thank you.
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Springfield M1A National Match rifle. This gun was a complete POS...
My Supermatch and Loaded M1A both shoot high master scores and have never hiccuped.
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smith and wesson should run perfect if you use winchester super-x
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The title to this thread is really misleading, I thought this was a discussion about Glocks.
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The title to this thread is really misleading, I thought this was a discussion about Glocks.
Don't hide....You may not like Glocks, but they are very reliable.
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After a failed factory fix, I wrote to Remington & they gave us both full refunds.
Dang , I had one long time back and after the factory returned it and said it was fixed ... it wasn't.
Wish I had known that. I tried trading it in but all the dealers for miles around knew they were junk.
I always cringe when I see some thinking about getting one.

Long time ago I had a jennings , typical jennings and was $60 new out the door and got my $60 back when I sold it.

Got one of those shuffs mini g things awhile back , pretty half razzed built for the money that was spent.

Had a smith and wesson mountain gun that broke on just about every outing. Factory would fix it and then something else would break.

Pretty happy with everything else though , PRO Tip ... never buy a used 597 , it may be my old one
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POS remington 700, bolt knob snapped off twice even after I had remington re braze it back on. Buh bye!
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S&W M&P9. From the factory it would eject brass straight back into your face no matter who shot it. I finally fixed it thought and it's been great since.

CZ97. Also ejects brass directly backwards into everybody's faces.
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Bryco Jennings .380, paid 115$ for it. That was 114$ too much, would be better to just throw it at someone.
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I had a Hi-Point 45 that wasn't the greatest.
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My first gun was a chinese SKS I bought new in 1992 for $100. It ran fine, and never jammed, but accuracy past 50 feet sucked. It was like 10" groups at 50 yards. I didn't know anything about them at the time, and assumed it must be the design or the round(doh!), and you get what you pay for. Obviously had a barrel problem of some sort. So I later passed on Russian surplus SKS for $130, and MAC90s for $180. Sure wish I knew better and bought at least that Russian SKS.
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Of course any maker could put out a lemon occasionally, if there isn't good quality control.
^^^^ This. What ammo are you running?

I have a M&P .22. Runs like a champ when I use CCI Blazer or Remington Thunderbolts. It's a jam-o-matic on everything else.
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A lot of people seem to complain about Walther P22's. There is a European version of the P-99 called the P-99T that shoots rubber bullets and has an even worse reputation.



The regular P-99 seems to be loved by everyone, though. Haven't heard of too many issues with them. I guess that's further proof that any company can produce both great and horrible guns.
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Never had a serious problem wth any of of my guns. Guess I'm lucky in that regard.

Occasional things like screws working loose (rear sight on an EMP) or a broken grip screw (same gun) are the worst I've had.
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Never really had a gun that turned into a nightmare. I did have a Cobray M11 back in the late 80s that will jam if ammo used is not round Profile FMJ. Don’t even think about using JHPs. The receiver was so soft that the bolt had created a groove inside the receiver. Maybe it was a lemon as I only paid $250 out the door for it. Ended up trading it for an AR15.
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KAHR P380, I know two others that had them and they were a piece of **** too.
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Beretta 92FS, Italian made, early 90's. Inaccurate as day is long. POS gun if ever was one. No one who touched it could hit with any consistency. Had staff at Montana Hawk try it just to confirm it was not me, no bueno. Ended up trading it at Helms House of Gun, SR. Waste of $600, FU Mel Gibson!
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The only gun I ever regret buying and consider the biggest POS ever is my Tec-9/AB10.

For the record I have owned 2 SW 22As (and a 22S) and currently own 2 Walther P22s and both are fantastic.
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While I own guns that I wouldn't buy again, I'm lucky to say that I've never owned a complete POS.
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The only gun I ever regret buying and consider the biggest POS ever is my Tec-9/AB10.

For the record I have owned 2 SW 22As (and a 22S) and currently own 2 Walther P22s and both are fantastic.
The Tec-9 I had was indeed the biggest POS I ever, EVER, owned and there isn't a close second.
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Adams Uppers. I’ve had two that where so far out of spec they wouldn’t fit on any of my lowers.


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SiG P226 Mk 25. The gun was bad enough, but the attitude of SiG customer service was worse. "Obviously, you don't know how to shoot our gun."

Dumped it after four weeks.


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You folks may have never heard of this one. Back in the 80's I bought a Charter Arms Explorer II .22 LR pistol. It was the pistol version of the AR-7 survival rifle originally put out by Armalite in CA but when Charter Arms got the license and rights to produce it all went downhill.

It only cost me about $40 but I got to modify several things on it as an experiment. After the experiments I just put it away in a closet and gave it away years later to a co-worker, who probably tossed it out in the trashcan.

I think this was the worst POS than anyone else has posted.

I have shot an original Armalite AR-7 and it was a nice rifle, and all it was touted to be.

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Amt 380 backup. Someone mentioned Helms House of guns earlier... I'd rather have a thousand tec9s that I bought and didn't work then spend a dollar in that horrible store ( or the "new" one that burned down Monday)
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I was given an AMT 380 backup that wouldnt cycle anything. Gave it to the next guy, FREE!
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