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Old 10-11-2017, 9:37 PM
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I am making the drive from CA to Utah this week and was wondering if anyone can shed some light on the legality of my CA CCW Permit in Nevada, Arizona, and Utah?

Do these states honor my LTC?
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https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_c...city_maps.html

Not good in Nevada. But you can legally open carry in Nevada, or conceal a loaded handgun in your car in Nevada (but not concealed on your person without CCW).

So you could unholster the gun before you cross the state line into NV, put it under a shirt on the seat next to you, or just on the seat next to you exposed, then reholster in UT. Or you could expose the gun on your waist when you cross into NV then conceal again in UT. But the gun should be plainly visible on your person in NV, I would use OWB holster.

http://www.nevadacarry.org/car-carry.html

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/28398...-gun-in-my-car
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:56 PM
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https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_c...city_maps.html

Not good in Nevada. But you can legally open carry in Nevada, or conceal a loaded handgun in your car in Nevada (but not concealed on your person without CCW).

So you could unholster the gun before you cross the state line into NV, put it under a shirt on the seat next to you, or just on the seat next to you exposed, then reholster in UT. Or you could expose the gun on your waist when you cross into NV then conceal again in UT. But the gun should be plainly visible on your person in NV, I would use OWB holster.

http://www.nevadacarry.org/car-carry.html

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/28398...-gun-in-my-car

This pretty much sums it up...
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Old 10-12-2017, 1:33 AM
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Get an non resident AZ license too. Very easy and recognized in more states than a CA permit
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As stated above, you would have more options if you obtain an AZ permit.

States that honor your CA CCW permit:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Wisconsin

States that do not:

Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Guam, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, New York City, North Dakota, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Virgin Islands, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming, American Samoa, N. Mariana Islands

If you have CA and AZ at time of travel:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming
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I am making the drive from CA to Utah this week and was wondering if anyone can shed some light on the legality of my CA CCW Permit in Nevada, Arizona, and Utah?

Do these states honor my LTC?
As a CCW holder you really should do a bit more research.
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https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_c...city_maps.html

Not good in Nevada. But you can legally open carry in Nevada, or conceal a loaded handgun in your car in Nevada (but not concealed on your person without CCW).

So you could unholster the gun before you cross the state line into NV, put it under a shirt on the seat next to you, or just on the seat next to you exposed, then reholster in UT. Or you could expose the gun on your waist when you cross into NV then conceal again in UT. But the gun should be plainly visible on your person in NV, I would use OWB holster.

http://www.nevadacarry.org/car-carry.html

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/28398...-gun-in-my-car
IWB with grip visible is fine as well for OC. Your link to Nevada Carry shows this, also. Also confirmed by my NV CCW instructor.

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As a CCW holder you really should do a bit more research.
Isn't that what he's doing?

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Isn't that what he's doing?

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No he is asking others to share their research.
One of the first things he should have done when he either applied or was approved was research where and when he could carry.
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So interviewing people and asking questions isn't research? Glad to know that. Let's all criticize and mock the newbie now instead of assisting. Ready? Go!

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So interviewing people and asking questions isn't research? Glad to know that. Let's all criticize and mock the newbie now instead of assisting. Ready? Go!

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There’s an app for $1.99 that tells you everything you need to know. Plug in your permits and it tells where you can carry and what the specific laws are for each state. Best $1.99 I ever spent!
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So interviewing people and asking questions isn't research? Glad to know that. Let's all criticize and mock the newbie now instead of assisting. Ready? Go!

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Wasn't mocking or criticizing.
There are many resources out there for research. NRA is a start.
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IWB with grip visible is fine as well for OC. Your link to Nevada Carry shows this, also. Also confirmed by my NV CCW instructor.

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Nevada Revised Statues 202.3653
As used in NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, unless the context otherwise requires:
1.  “Concealed firearm” means a loaded or unloaded handgun which is carried upon a person in such a manner as not to be discernible by ordinary observation.
2.  “Department” means the Department of Public Safety.
3.  “Handgun” has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(29).
4.  “Permit” means a permit to carry a concealed firearm issued pursuant to the provisions of NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive.
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You will need to do your own research for each state you want to carry in. Every state has different laws. Even if you are carrying with a CA, AZ, UT or another state's permit, you still need to follow the laws of the state you are carrying in. No app or forum is going to be 100% accurate so, you still need to do your own research after using an app or advise from a forum.
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Nevada Revised Statues 202.3653
As used in NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, unless the context otherwise requires:
1.  “Concealed firearm” means a loaded or unloaded handgun which is carried upon a person in such a manner as not to be discernible by ordinary observation.
2.  “Department” means the Department of Public Safety.
3.  “Handgun” has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(29).
4.  “Permit” means a permit to carry a concealed firearm issued pursuant to the provisions of NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive.
So does grip visible meet the requirements of "ordinary observation?"

I think most Nevada residents (LEO) can tell a gun is present from seeing the butt. California residents may have problems.
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Old 10-15-2017, 5:26 PM
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So does grip visible meet the requirements of "ordinary observation?"

I think most Nevada residents (LEO) can tell a gun is present from seeing the butt. California residents may have problems.


Depends on who reports it and on the NV LEOs that respond.

The majority of NV LEOs will say it's not concealed, but some of those will also say it's prudent to go fully exposed in order to avoid confusion.

Because there are some NV LEOs in Clark County that would have an issue with it.
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Several years ago, North Las Vegas city council installed an anti-gun police chief for the North Las Vegas PD (NVLPD). They then started to purge the NVLPD of LEOs that would not enforce NLV anti-gun ordinances (that were declared illegal under new NV state laws and had to be sued by the ACLU of NV to stop enforcement of). Those NVLPD LEOs will say it's concealed.
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So does grip visible meet the requirements of "ordinary observation?"

I think most Nevada residents (LEO) can tell a gun is present from seeing the butt. California residents may have problems.
Not really. It's off roster in CA, but the most popular pocket carry in America is the Ruger LCP 2. You won't be able to tell someone is pocket carrying with it.

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Not really. It's off roster in CA, but the most popular pocket carry in America is the Ruger LCP 2. You won't be able to tell someone is pocket carrying with it.

I can agree that if one pocket-carries that they are likely putting themselves in jeopardy without a NV CCW permit.

My understanding is that if non-CCW OC'ing IWB or other placement that you ideally should make the weapon as visible as possible. Even an untucked shirt temporarily over the weapon is a no-no.

That being said, OP asked how to legally carry in their car across NV, and I don't see anything preventing them going IWB+visible, but that's a decision for OP's risk profile.

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Echo what others have already said, how you liking your LCP II? Did you have a 1 prior to that?
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I agree with "38Special"....you gotta do your own research. Although a lot of people on here know what they're talking about, most of us don't know each other outside of our avatar. People research their hotel and places to eat more than they do their firearm legalities....kinda weird in my opinion. Do a quick "Play Store" app search or whatever and you'll find several FREE apps that'll give you up-to-date info pertaining to legally carrying and traveling with your gun. Safe travels.
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I am confused as to how pocket carry could not be concealed carry. At least I have only heard of it in regards to completely carrying within a pocket so that the entire firearm, including the grip, is concealed. I suppose you could carry with the entire grip exposed as if the pocket was a holster, but is that what is meant above by pocket carry.
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There’s an app for $1.99 that tells you everything you need to know. Plug in your permits and it tells where you can carry and what the specific laws are for each state. Best $1.99 I ever spent!
Care to share?
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Nevada does not honor California CCW; Arizona and Utah do.
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It’s called CCW concealed carry on the App Store.

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Thanks. I knew about the reciprocity map already, but this is nice because it also has the different states' gun laws, all in one place.
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Thanks. I knew about the reciprocity map already, but this is nice because it also has the different states' gun laws, all in one place.


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