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Old 09-14-2017, 2:33 PM
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Our safes buy precious time from thieves. Make use of that time with AVIS and know immediately someone is tampering with your safe. No subscriptions or fees, just pure security.

AVIS would have prevented this $1.1M heist in Texas.


-AVIS would have immediately detected the vibrations from the cut off wheel when the thief starts.
-At the same time, AVIS starts sending an alert to the cell phone and/or email address you provide.
-Within 15 seconds you will have received the alerts.
-You can then immediately call authorites


Note that the professionals did not cut power. They needed it for their cut off wheel. Also the video has significant time cut out and the thieves were on scene even longer than depicted.


Our safes buy precious time from thieves.
Make use of that time with AVIS and know immediately when someone is tampering with your safe.


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No subscriptions or fees, just pure security.

ORDER HERE - free 2-3 day shipping on all orders
$235 for the 110V models with battery backup
$229 for the battery models with extended life (16+ months)
http://bayswaterblue.com/avisOrder.html








Instantly texts and/or emails you in the event of your safe being threatened or opened.

What AVIS will do for you:
You will have instant information regarding your safe, wherever you are in the world (with cell or WiFi coverage).
Provides specific crucial information when you cannot get to your safe.
Instantly text/email you when your door is opened, and then closed.
Power tool attacks like cut off wheels, drills, and grinders will be detected by vibration sensors
Tilting of the safe (pallet jack or tipping over to pry open) will be detected by the internal tilt sensors
Attempts to pry open the door will be detected by the anti-pry sensor
Plus more!

If any of these events are detected, you will have a text and/or email within seconds, specifically telling you which has been triggered.

Every AVIS system comes with a complete suite of 10 sensors to fully monitor your safe or vault rooms. Batteries included. Power adapter included on 110V models. Free shipping.






(1) External, magnetic, harmonically tuned vibration sensors can be placed anywhere in the safe and you can add as many as you want.
(1) 6" magnetic anti-pry sensor will detect an attempt to pry open your safe or vault door. Add as many as you want.
(1) Antenna sensor will alert any disturbance with the external antenna.
(4) Tilt sensors internal to the base unit will monitor the upright orientation of your safe and notify you of any sufficient changes.
--An optoelectric sensor instantly detects whenever the vault or safe door is opened, even in dim lighting conditions.
--High precision digital temperature and humidity sensor by Texas Instruments. Long life with very little drift.
(3) Individual microprocessors with redundant monitoring capabilities for maximum security reliability.


ORDER HERE - free 2-3 day shipping on all orders
$235 for the 110V models with battery backup
$229 for the battery models with extended life (16+ months)
http://bayswaterblue.com/avisOrder.html

The website is constantly being improved and I'm currently working on adding more and more content.


AVIS Quick Set up Guide to get AVIS into secure mode:


AVIS install guide


* Lifetime Warranty! - Bayswater Blue stands by all of our products and AVIS comes with a lifetime warranty covering failures related to manufacturing defects. Components, labor, and shipping will be covered for manufacture related failures. Lifetime is determined by the availability of necessary major components or similar acceptable replacements.

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Old 11-14-2017, 10:36 PM
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Old 11-17-2017, 6:22 PM
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Cross-posted from "New Product Announcements" sub-forum.

Hey @Frozenguy - could you answer a few questions about AVIS-lite that will help me and might be helpful to other customers?

* Is AVIS-lite the same size unit as AVIS (i.e., 5.1" x 2.7" x 1.7" L-D-H)?

* Is AVIS-lite essentially the AVIS unit without plug-in external sensors (i.e., all sensors are contained in the unit)?

* How long are the antenna wire and antenna-tamper-sensor wire?

* How big an access hole in a safe is necessary for the antenna wire + antenna sensor wire? And if adding a power cord?

I am acquiring a safe, and to deploy AVIS-lite I'd have to drill my own access hole (which I am concerned about in 1/4" steel plate) and also maybe rework my home wifi set-up to make it work for me given already spotty wifi connections in the area of my home I plan to install my safe (but maybe the AVIS antenna is much better than typical mobile phone antennas?). UPDATE from original posting in sub-forum: I may be able to use one bolt-down hole instead for the antenna wire which makes a possible AVIS unit more attractive to me.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-25-2017, 3:13 PM
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Cross-posted from "New Product Announcements" sub-forum.

Hey @Frozenguy - could you answer a few questions about AVIS-lite that will help me and might be helpful to other customers?

1) Is AVIS-lite the same size unit as AVIS (i.e., 5.1" x 2.7" x 1.7" L-D-H)?

2) Is AVIS-lite essentially the AVIS unit without plug-in external sensors (i.e., all sensors are contained in the unit)?

3) How long are the antenna wire and antenna-tamper-sensor wire?

4) How big an access hole in a safe is necessary for the antenna wire + antenna sensor wire? And if adding a power cord?

I am acquiring a safe, and to deploy AVIS-lite I'd have to drill my own access hole (which I am concerned about in 1/4" steel plate) and also maybe rework my home wifi set-up to make it work for me given already spotty wifi connections in the area of my home I plan to install my safe (but maybe the AVIS antenna is much better than typical mobile phone antennas?). UPDATE from original posting in sub-forum: I may be able to use one bolt-down hole instead for the antenna wire which makes a possible AVIS unit more attractive to me.

Thanks in advance.
1) Yes AVIS and AVIS-Lite are the same size

2) AVIS-Lite has fewer sensors than AVIS, and all are internal. AVIS-Lite does have an added internal vibration sensor but does not have the pry sensor, or the antenna anti-tamper sensors.

3) The anti-tamper sensor and antenna cables are approximately 9.5' in length.

4) A 3/8" hole will accommodate the installation of all three: the antenna cable, anti-tamper sensor cable, and power cord. The connectors on the cables are what require the most space so once those are installed, a cut power cord will have enough room to pass through as long as it's not the heavy duty thick type.

AVIS has an incredible range, far greater than cell phones. So far about 2/5 of customers report they don't need the antenna to be external however I do not have any information regarding the safe wall thickness or proximity to a router.

Drilling with the right bit wont be too hard but if you can use an extra bolt down hole that would be a great option.

Thank you for your questions and interest!
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One happy customer here.
In case someone can use this info- I have AVIS, the antenna is inside the safe, safe walls are 11 gauge, safe is on a different floor from wi-if router, about 60’ away.

I have a question- is there any way to make the vibration sensor less sensitive? I have kids, when they play around the safe, sometimes they will trigger the vibration alarm.
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I purchased an AVIS-lite unit around Thanksgiving weekend. I chose AVIS-lite due to my safe’s characteristics – with a different safe, and with different contents, I would have chosen AVIS in full.

I received AVIS on a Friday late afternoon; it was pretty simple to install. I followed the install video prepared by Frozenguy, and was up and running. Rather than test connectivity without the external antenna, I elected to go ahead and use the external with the wire running through one bolt-down hole in my safe.

After install I did a fair bit of testing – opening and closing the safe, tilting, rocking, etc. AVIS consistently sent me a text within less than a minute from any change in status. A week after install, I also received my first weekly status update, detailing conditions in the safe.

I am extremely happy with AVIS’s performance, and with my decision to purchase AVIS. As Frozenguy says – safes buy us time to deal with issues around what we choose to keep in our safes. To me, AVIS-lite or full AVIS is a no-brainer addition to that purchase of time.

Great job on developing your product, Frozenguy!
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Old 12-17-2017, 8:43 PM
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One happy customer here.
In case someone can use this info- I have AVIS, the antenna is inside the safe, safe walls are 11 gauge, safe is on a different floor from wi-if router, about 60’ away.

I have a question- is there any way to make the vibration sensor less sensitive? I have kids, when they play around the safe, sometimes they will trigger the vibration alarm.
Really glad you're happy with it. Sometimes if the safe is on a wooden subfloor it can pick up vibration from the floor. I'm currently developing a solution that would filter out those vibrations. Maybe I could use your help as a test bed and I'll send you the pad and let me know how it works.

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I purchased an AVIS-lite unit around Thanksgiving weekend. I chose AVIS-lite due to my safe’s characteristics – with a different safe, and with different contents, I would have chosen AVIS in full.

I received AVIS on a Friday late afternoon; it was pretty simple to install. I followed the install video prepared by Frozenguy, and was up and running. Rather than test connectivity without the external antenna, I elected to go ahead and use the external with the wire running through one bolt-down hole in my safe.

After install I did a fair bit of testing – opening and closing the safe, tilting, rocking, etc. AVIS consistently sent me a text within less than a minute from any change in status. A week after install, I also received my first weekly status update, detailing conditions in the safe.

I am extremely happy with AVIS’s performance, and with my decision to purchase AVIS. As Frozenguy says – safes buy us time to deal with issues around what we choose to keep in our safes. To me, AVIS-lite or full AVIS is a no-brainer addition to that purchase of time.

Great job on developing your product, Frozenguy!
Makes my day reading happy customer reviews. Really glad you're happy with AVIS and thank you for the review.
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I'm a network guy so I find this an interesting idea.

If I jam the 2.4/5ghz spectrum with a signal generator or attack it with a deauthentication attack, does it trigger an alert? That is to say, is there a service on the internet that checks in with the unit to check for a response? Or is this unidirectional and there's no outbound traffic generated until an event is recorded?

If there is an interactive check between the unit and a web service, how does the service authenticate responses come from an AVIS unit VS replayed or generated from a rogue device?

Here's my concern. Wi-Fi MAC addresses broadcast in virtual plaintext. If the OUI identifies the wifi device as an AVIS unit, I can effectively determine what house has a safe in it, without having ever been inside. I can then exploit potential vulnerabilities in the implementation to defeat the alerting.
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That's a great question and definitely a valid concern. Fortunately it's not applicable to AVIS.

AVIS is unidirectional and asleep 100% of the time, not broadcasting any signal at all until a sensor is physically triggered. Once a week for about 15 seconds, AVIS connects and emails a report before going back to sleep.
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Very Interested. Will be buying one for each safe.
Thank you
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That's a great question and definitely a valid concern. Fortunately it's not applicable to AVIS.

AVIS is unidirectional and asleep 100% of the time, not broadcasting any signal at all until a sensor is physically triggered. Once a week for about 15 seconds, AVIS connects and emails a report before going back to sleep.
I can think of a few vulnerabilities then:

- Jamming the spectrum or engaging a deauthentication attack on the AP would defeat this system.

- Power or service cut that disables the internet connection or AP would prevent the alert from reaching.

- You can set up a device to capture all wireless frames and filter for specific OUIs or patterns. The once a week pattern and/or OUI would be a giveaway if someone knew what to look for. Its power pattern would delay and obfuscate it's presence, but not prevent its detection.

Obviously, most people breaking into safes aren't going to be this techie and I don't think these are huge issues for the target market and goal and the price/feature/value parameters are about right. However, wireless abuse seems to be the next wave in compromising physical security.

For example. Check out these thieves using a wireless relay attack to steal a Mercedes.

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I can think of a few vulnerabilities then:

- Jamming the spectrum or engaging a deauthentication attack on the AP would defeat this system.

- Power or service cut that disables the internet connection or AP would prevent the alert from reaching.

- You can set up a device to capture all wireless frames and filter for specific OUIs or patterns. The once a week pattern and/or OUI would be a giveaway if someone knew what to look for. Its power pattern would delay and obfuscate it's presence, but not prevent its detection.

Obviously, most people breaking into safes aren't going to be this techie and I don't think these are huge issues for the target market and goal and the price/feature/value parameters are about right. However, wireless abuse seems to be the next wave in compromising physical security.
Here is why those vulnerabilities insignificant or not applicable:


1) Any of the AVIS users can tell you that the report time is actually random, but about a week. No patterns.
I won't go into detail about the behind the scenes security of AVIS, but what you're proposing would require the camping of equipment for months running 24/7 within WiFi range. Doesn't make much sense.

2) Generally the power is not cut during safe robbery. However, a small APC will keep power to the router. I plan on offering a package deal in the near future.

Safes are still so low tech, no theif is bringing spectrum jamming equipment. Maybe 20 years in the future but I'll have a new version of AVIS out by then.

This is just another layer of security. If you see a strange car parked outside within your WiFi range for months, that should set off some red flags of your own.

If you have any other comments, PM me and I'll copy paste it along with my response in my next bump so my thread stays in the rules. Thanks!

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