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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Has anyone here yet considered registering an FN PS90...??? Mine has a an Extended Buttstock along with the Extended Barrel to achieve OAL 30" with Magazine Device... Does anyone know if the Barrel Extension will need to be Welded on Permanently ??? and if any other things need to be done to register it... ??? Thanks in advance , Roland Navalta / Ikaika808
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Federal rules will still apply after registration, as California RAWing isn't the same as getting a tax stamp for SBR-AOW-DD-etc, so you can't jump from Cali Raw to SBR without federal approval, if you're interested in mods after Cal Raw. Ask future questions in the DISCUSSION thread or the "how does the California 2a effect me" topic forum for faster or better responses. I also recommend reading the regulations as you appear to be asking questions that are covered either in the regulations or on CFARS.
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I have asked several times about 30" -> 26" post registration, not just for bullpups, but any rifle that has a folding stock that can be fired from the folded position but is over 26" (but under 30") folded.
Short answer is: the law does not cover it, but the DoJ has a blank check to do whatever they want with your application. Including tearing it up at any time. So glad we have an equitable court system. Nowadays, I openly deride any lawyer who tries to tell me how cleverly crafted, "air tight" legal arguments can compel courts into interpreting the law as written. The courts demonstrably have no interest in the law.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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Easy for a guy who lives in Idaho to say.
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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. |
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Yeah. Cowards like zonzin really piss me off. Not only did he run away scared. But he comes to CalGuns to taunt those of us who choose to stay and fight for California.
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I see, I read it wrong! Thanks
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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. |
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I did not give you permission to use my picture for your meme.
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What exactly is your big plan of defiance?
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Confirming, I havent found the official update yet, that we now have until July 2018 to decide how to "cooperate" and/or register correct?
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"If you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow" |
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As I understood it, you have until July 2018 to have your registration approved as you are technically not registered until they do approve it
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Great thanks, will be waiting till January of 2018 then, hopefully one of the lawsuits will at least put this craziness on hold by then
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I'm optimistic for two reasons... 1) To be pessimistic is, in my opinion, the same thing as resigning yourself to defeat. You can't win, or even make any progress, if you don't even try because you think you already know what the outcome would be. 2) Political winds change all the time. In 2003, which wasn't that long ago, Republicans took 62% of the vote in the gubernatorial recall election. Thinking that CA is completely lost forever, purely based on what's been happening in only the last couple decades, is overly dramatic and emotional thinking. If you think political tides can never turn around, remember that even Texas was democrat as recently as 30 years ago. Regional political affiliation is largely based on the hot-button social issues of the time. CA was a red state, until suddenly gay rights, pot, abortions, and gun control became hot-button social issues here. For the most part, those are almost non-issues for them now. Liberals are running out of liberal ideas to be outraged about. Pretty much all they have left is climate change and immigration. Eventually, they'll find that their liberal policies that have been rammed into law without any thought are adversely affecting them in far worse ways than climate change or immigrant rights, and when that happens, votes start changing. Liberals already have everything they want. They've resorted to fighting for causes that don't even affect them - partially out of boredom, but mostly just so they can feel righteous. That boredom, and striving for righteousness will be put on the backburner when suddenly they realize they're being taxed out of their homes, their jobs are all moving to other states, and infrastructure is falling apart, all while the majority of the state budget it still being re-purposed for useless social causes, and they will find a new outrage... an outrage which they will be sharing with those of us who have already been feeling that outrage our whole lives.
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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. Last edited by CandG; 09-20-2017 at 2:01 PM.. |
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What's yours.....registration?
I continue to see anyone who has made the decision to relocate to escape the tyranny and enjoy their lives in relative freedom derided by a certain group of members here. What makes you right, and gives you the right to condemn? In fact...Why do you disagree so vehemently with those that oppose registration...and again...what makes you better than them?
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"I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars. |
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Fleeing the fight is one thing, I say good for them, they are enjoying freedom. But then to come back on here and ridicule those faced with a fight and tough decisions is beyond contemptuous and shows no character. Advocate leaving all the want, there is nothing wrong with that. But have the fiber to respect those that stay and take action for change. What gives you the right to condemn is even more of a pertinent question? No one is condemning those who do not wish to comply, every one of those people who you say condemned the fled "patriot" even share your principle. We just need to fight within the law. We don't live where you are, where there are no consequences to taking the action of non-compliance. So maybe it bothers you because you are in fact doing the same thing as the fled "patriot", playing the same troupe. You condemn others for not doing what you do, but make no candid realization that the action for you has no consequence, while the people you condemn face severe ones. Your not actually in the fight, just like the fled "patriot". Come to SF or a major urban area and tout that same bravado.
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Baccerro is filing lawsuits against Trump and his administration...citing the rule of law in this country, while ignoring and in fact flaunting California's refusal to comply with Federal law.
Despite over 70 % disapproval by citizens in this state, a bill to make California a Mecca for every illegal criminal in the country sits on Brown's desk waiting to be signed. Brown has spent the last 7 years stacking California courts with liberal activist judges...which he freely shops whenever he and the Left need a court decision ruled in their favor. There is no law to fight within. And I take issue with your constant disparagement of the word "Patriot" by italicizing it, Chris. I find it un-American and patronizing. It also highlights your bay area elitist attitude.
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"I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars. Last edited by BluNorthern; 09-21-2017 at 8:21 AM.. |
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome |
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What's interesting, is that a handful of people who registered on Day 1 got emails from DOJ within a day or two, requesting additional photos and/or information. But then after that, nobody heard anything from DOJ for almost 2 months.
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Didn't get any word about my two AK Pattern rifles (WASR and SAIGA Conversion). I resubmitted the 5 that needed to be modified and now I guess I'm back to waiting as it were the first day again.
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Anyone who says they see even 1 benefit to RAW, is an ostrich with its head buried in the sand and its feathered *** exposed to limp wristed, but tight fisted passers by on Santa Monica Blvd, in West Hollywood, in front of club RAGE. All of you who did register all have signed up to be majorly screwed in the very near future.
Another hint is that you will not be able to pass these rifles down to family. Making it very easy to effectively remove all weaponry eventually from citizens hands. As an heirloom the item is charged with extra meaning, and godly beauty, which is the most dangerous weapon against these scum. You must all repent now in the name of the lord and gather as free men in great numbers, under the flag of this nation and march the capitol nonstop until they are defeated. They have kept us fat stupid and happy and if you can't see your own enslavement looming over you you are dead already. The only way this will work is if GOD IS INVOLVED AND THE NUMBERS ARE TREMENDOUS. Everyone needs to stop jibber jabbering about what aunty Cameltoe Hairass will let you have, and take it back. It will only work again if GOD IS THERE< AND YOU ARE THERE. ARE WE NOT MEN.....WE ARE DEVO......ARE WE NOT MEN.....D>E>V>O. |
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BEL-BIV-D-E-V-O
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Last edited by Discogodfather; 09-22-2017 at 8:31 AM.. |
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Great advice, I'll add that to the AW registration guide
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As for taunting,, I was not taunting, it was real sympathy for whats happening to the last free folk in CA. .
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For many many years I contributed to pro 2a groups, I voted every election, I challenged folks in my sphere of influence with pro 2a thought, didn't seem to matter as so many in CA sit on their hands and do nothing and let the present aristocracy in CA continue it's war path to socialism.
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There's no la Jolla in Idaho.
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For you to believe globalization can continue, you have to believe it doesn't require increased consumption and that the Americans will continue to bleed and die so that the Chinese can access energy. - Peter Zeihan |
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