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Old 12-01-2019, 6:52 AM
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Default Best bets in single shot 12G?

Whats considered a good single shot 12G these days, either new or old? Does name or precision of build matter? Are cheap ones just as good?
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Old 12-01-2019, 9:45 AM
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New England / H&R are good. I like the 60s through 90s vintage.
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Old 12-01-2019, 10:02 AM
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Winchester M37 is the standard of single barrel shotguns.

Or you can move up to Single Barrel Trap Guns which cost more than you make.

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Old 12-01-2019, 10:43 AM
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I think it really matters is what you intend to use it for.
Is it going to be used by a youth or a woman because I think some of them from H & R come with shorter stocked youth models. Or are you going to use it to try and impress at some Sporting Clays event excetera excetera.

Anyway as mentioned above Harrington and Richardson / H&R , which later became New England Firearms, also known as N.E.F. is a good choice if it's just going to be your around the farm gun. They are durable, simple and I think it's going to be cheaper than the Winchester M37 , which is also a good choice.

But the single barrel shotgun design is very simple as Firearms go and even if you bought a cheap imported version which I think are now mostly coming from Turkey , would still probably give you a long service life.
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Old 12-01-2019, 4:38 PM
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Replies in here are appreciated.

(A side note, I had to search back for this thread to see if any replies because I didnt know that replies which are noticed by emails to me were going straight to spam by Yahoo. Previously, Yahoo called Calguns emails spam and I whitelisted Calguns over and over again and still anything related to guns, conservatism, Trump, GOP, anything not Left is going to spam (then to trash) no matter how much I whitelist. Meantime, anything DEM or Left on this planet floods my email box and god knows where they get my email address from. These Left spam emails, no matter how many times I mark them spam they keep showing up in my Inbox. But there is no suppression of opposition POV, is there!)

Im a man, 65, and have been on 12G pumps all my shooting life. I shot trap when I was a teen but not since. A 12G is a good thing to have for general purposes and I find I dont have a need anymore for my Rem 870 Wingmaster, Id rather have something simpler, easy to take down and clean, and the ability, should I ever care to try, to use other-caliber adapters.

I never used or cared about single shot so I didnt/dont know if they are judged by the same standard as a pump. About a year ago I saw a YT video about rust cleaning and the guy used his Rossi short-barreled side by side ranch gun as his example to work on. I thought, THATS all I need right there--even with the rust!

I have been looking around YT and see that single-shots get mixed reviews. I looked on Buds Guns and can see they have about 25 single-shots available and comments are very mixed, like people not liking the IO brand, for example. Then I click CA Compliant button and the list drops to three. Why is this, is it the microstamping issue of whats wrong? So, it means I may have to look for something old, something from a pawn shop or something and then I need some guidance.

When I was growing up most people I knew used H&R single-shot but I didnt know anything about them. I would see them in gun shops for so cheap and thought that if pumps were so expensive, maybe single-shots werent good at all and this isnt true.

Im not a competitor, dont shoot trap, just need basic defense, target fun sometimes and an excuse to keep my shoulder in shape in a simple 12G thats not a chore to keep up and wont break a bank thats already thoroughly gun-broken and qualifies as utility in the sense that I wont care if it has or gets nicks and dings and rust patina but is also good enough to last and is absolutely not a POS and wont fall to pieces when I get ready to fire it.
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Hey Charles,

I have a Savage Mod. 301. Looks to be a replica/ copy of the older popular H & R singles.
The 301 I have seems very solidly built. Comes with a removable modified Win-choke (to hunt different game), bead sight, synthetic stock, and an ejector to help with faster reloading for follow up shots.
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Then I click CA Compliant button and the list drops to three. Why is this, is it the microstamping issue of whats wrong? So, it means I may have to look for something old, something from a pawn shop or something and then I need some guidance.
Microstamping is a semi-auto handgun thing and doesn’t apply here.

I believe, and someone will correct me if I’m wrong, the only law you have to watch out for with a single shot shotgun would be the law prohibiting “short barreled shotguns.” (So barrel must be > 18” and overall length must be > 26”)

I don’t own one, but Henry Repeating Arms also makes single shot shotguns. I have a few of their lever rifles that I’ve been happy with though, so I would take a look at one if I was in the market
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Why not a SxS or O/U? Far more options with those 2.

BTW, adapters are junk unless you think minute-of-barn-door is good shooting.
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Old 12-01-2019, 8:03 PM
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minute of barn door? lol good one. Well, I have seen vids of those adapters tested and they seemed to be 95% accurate compared to the rifle itself. I didnt have a plan to have any but saw it as an option to increase the rifle's utility--if any, at all.

Like I said, i WOULD like a SXS. My dream gun, besides B.A.R., was a O/U but when I was younger people always told me to stay away from them because of cleaning and repair complexities. I never owned either so i cant say. In modern times, this is the video that got me started and thinking about single-shot. I want to live somewhere, throw open the kitchen door and be him, doing that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FosQqV0O_9E

Good point about barrel length. As I know, most models of shotguns have most barrel lengths available and I'll re-check Buds and see if their decision to stock shorter length contributes to the few available for CA. Otherwise I have no idea why.

I like anything Henry but Im sure even a single-shot would be pricey and Im trying to keep this low.
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You don't state your purpose.

Something like an H&R topper will go bang and I've known dog trainers who like the hammer cocking.

TMK there's some designed for sabot slugs.

A Browning BT99 (trap gun) are excellent quality and affordable to the common man.
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Old 12-01-2019, 11:13 PM
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Henry now makes single shot shotguns and single shot rifles. They also have a youth model shotgun. I don't have a single shot but I do love my Henry .357 lever gun!

https://www.henryusa.com/shotgun/single-shot-shotgun/
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H&R are some nice guns. Have shot both there rifles and shotguns
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Old 12-02-2019, 6:33 AM
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I thought my purpose was clear but I will try harder to express it better.

But first, a detour because I havent bought a long gun since right before the law changed in 2014. The roster is for hand guns so is the criteria for a long gun 18+ inches of barrel and/or what other details? Can I buy out of state and ship it to a FFL or use my 03 for an older shotgun, or we dont care about 03 for a 1947 short barrel shotgun because it still has to pass the current litmus test and go through an 07? Or, if secondhand, am i limited to what secondhand is already IN CA regardless of age? The registration and $19 is understood but can I choose the shotgun I want that is 18 inches minimum, overall length of (XXX) and ship it in? Does AW criteria apply, as to things like folding stocks, pistol grips, forend vertical grips and the like?
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