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Hey Trap!

Just put this baby in jail, Model 12 with serial 1243570. Stamped on barrel (30") as having a "Full" choke - when I get her out of jail, will post pictures to confirm.

Thanks for all your work and contributions!
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Hey Trap!

Just put this baby in jail, Model 12 with serial 1243570. Stamped on barrel (30") as having a "Full" choke - when I get her out of jail, will post pictures to confirm.

Thanks for all your work and contributions!
Dot, your Model 12 was made about Feb of 1949, with 62,180 made that year.
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Dot, your Model 12 was made about Feb of 1949, with 62,180 made that year.
Woah, thanks for the fast response!

Didn't realize she was so old, almost as old as my Mosin. Gonna be my first shotgun. Was browsing over the standard 870's and 500's, and they just didn't have any soul compared to the M12. Thanks again!
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Model 1892 12 GA serial C 83174
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Model 1892 12 GA serial C 83174
If that's not a typo, I have to see that one!
Model 1897 serial numbers were a continuation of the Model 1893 that was discontinued in 1896 about serial number 34,050. So my educated guess is, you have a Model 1897 that was made in the later part of 1899, with 26,232 made that year.
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If that's not a typo, I have to see that one!
Model 1897 serial numbers were a continuation of the Model 1893 that was discontinued in 1896 about serial number 34,050. So my educated guess is, you have a Model 1897 that was made in the later part of 1899, with 26,232 made that year.
yea, 83174, model 1897. It's a short barrel riot gun. Take down frame. Steel butt plate with no serrations.

I'll work on a pic.

My wife just inherited a bunch of old guns from her father. There was a Winchester side by side as well, but I don't have it here.
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Airborne, Is the choke marked on the barrel? Barrel length? Front bead?
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How about a Winchester 1873 Model 3 #311393B.
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How about a Winchester 1873 Model 3 #311393B.
Made in 1889, with 38,651 made that year.
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Made in 1889, with 38,651 made that year.
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New to this forum so here's my question...
Tried to explore this in other locations but couldn't really find anything:

I'm about to acquire an 1894 (made 1923), Winchester, 30WCF, short barreled rifle. 15" (trapper).
I will need to get it certified by ATF to clear the NFA restrictions.
So, has anyone gone thru this process and is there a number to call in WV to get some direction on this. I understand that some of the process has changed recently.
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The ATF has a list somewhere on their website of all the Trapper rifles that have been cleared. Curio and Relic List (SEC. III: Weapons Removed From The NFA As Collector's Items And Classified As Curios Or Relics Under The GCA is what you'll be looking for.
If yours isn't on the list, your first step is to see if a Cody letter states that the serial number was made with a barrel shorter than 16". Some were made at Winchester, but the info isn't in the ledgers. ATF has approved several of these.
First step is to authenticate.
Second is contact ATF for inspection/approval.
If it's good to go, it's added to the list by Make, Model, and Serial Number.
That's about all I can tell you on the process, my piggy bank has never been big enough to afford a Trapper.
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I've checked the list and this one is not on it.
Cody can only give the date the serial number was applied NOT its configuration.

I think I'm at the second step...I'll keep check'n the web.

You'd be flabbergasted (in a good way) if I told you what I paid for this one
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How about Win 1894 Serial 2108938
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Made Jan/Feb of 1955, with 55,500 made that year.
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Hey TRAPP!

This will be delivered to my office tomorrow. Model 73 in 22 short. 80% condition
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This will be delivered to my office tomorrow. Model 73 in 22 short. 80% condition
A '73 in .22 Short, and you post one tiny lame azz pic? Bragging rights and Man card are in jeopardy!
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A '73 in .22 Short, and you post one tiny lame azz pic? Bragging rights and Man card are in jeopardy!
Well played Dave!!! i'll try and post some better pictures this week. Man o man is it a beauty!
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Hey Trap, I have a Model 94 in 32ws #1482768
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Hey Trap, I have a Model 94 in 32ws #1482768
Early 1948, with a record 147,934 made that year.
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I just got a Winchester Model 95 Serial # 411686
Any info would be great.
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Made in 1921, with 3,266 made that year.
Produced from 1895 to 1933, with a total production of 425,881. Sounds like a lot, but 293,000 of those were muskets that went to Russia, and another 10,000 that the US bought.
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my 1886 is #91957
information i have is that the serial number was applied 21 Sept 1894.

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my 1886 is #91957
information i have is that the serial number was applied 21 Sept 1894.

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Gary, sounds like you have a Cody Letter?
11,840 made that year, Sept would be about right on yours.
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Gary, sounds like you have a Cody Letter?
11,840 made that year, Sept would be about right on yours.
yes i do, but sort of new to antique firearms and it's always good to hear a 2nd opinion. thanks for the input.
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Did your letter include the date received in warehouse, and the date shipped too?
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Did your letter include the date received in warehouse, and the date shipped too?
yes... received in warehouse 15 Oct 1894 and shipped the next day.
order #24043

with the industrial revolution hitting the century mark in my lifetime, i find this an interesting time to be alive. up until now the oldest thing i've owned (though i usually consider my role as more of a caretaker) was an American Flyer train (ca. 1915) which still runs like a champ. sure would be nice if the mantra of "they don't make 'em like they used to" would someday become an archaic term.

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Can I get some help determining % of bluing left on my Greatgrandfather's Winchester and maybe a value, 38/40, serial #410564B, 28" barrel, cleaning rod included? Thanks.
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Can I get some help determining % of bluing left on my Greatgrandfather's Winchester and maybe a value, 38/40, serial #410564B, 28" barrel, cleaning rod included? Thanks.
Your Sporting Rifle was made about Jan of 1892. I can't tell from your pics if that receiver is blue, or the remnants of color case. Get some oil in that bore! The side view looks like it's about 70%, then the muzzle and breech pics show frosty rust, and a brown patina.
"If" the cleaning rod set isn't a repro, it's a nice plus on value. I can't see what it has for sights, looks like standard Sporting sights, Buckhorn rear?, there were all kinds of options, some of the options bring a premium too. Caliber dictates value as well, .44/40 bringing the most, followed by .38/40 and .32/20. The .22 Rimfire Short or Long is on a whole different level.
If it functions, my best WAG on value would be in the $1600-$1800 range, and that is a WAG without having hands on.
It looks to need a good deep cleaning/preservation too.
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Thank you for your info Trap55. I'll get some oil in the bore right away.
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Your Sporting Rifle was made about Jan of 1892. I can't tell from your pics if that receiver is blue, or the remnants of color case. Get some oil in that bore! The side view looks like it's about 70%, then the muzzle and breech pics show frosty rust, and a brown patina.
"If" the cleaning rod set isn't a repro, it's a nice plus on value. I can't see what it has for sights, looks like standard Sporting sights, Buckhorn rear?, there were all kinds of options, some of the options bring a premium too. Caliber dictates value as well, .44/40 bringing the most, followed by .38/40 and .32/20. The .22 Rimfire Short or Long is on a whole different level.
If it functions, my best WAG on value would be in the $1600-$1800 range, and that is a WAG without having hands on.
It looks to need a good deep cleaning/preservation too.
That's a little low in my opinion... Trap, you did notice the barrel length, right?
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That's a little low in my opinion... Trap, you did notice the barrel length, right?
Uh oh....Brian caught you slippin Trap!!
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Yes he did!
Speakin of slippin.....I can't see the pics of your .22 cal 1873? It's only been 3 months, I'm sure they're here somewhere, right?
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hey Trap! mod 94 src #440816, my granny's huntin rifle. thanx for your time
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Made in 1909, with 19,345 made that year. What caliber?
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Speakin of slippin.....I can't see the pics of your .22 cal 1873? It's only been 3 months, I'm sure they're here somewhere, right?
Waaayyy slipping!!! i'll try and get some better pictures up this weekend.
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Waaayyy slipping!!! i'll try and get some better pictures up this weekend.
I have ammo for that. Just sayin.
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