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Old 02-21-2018, 10:20 AM
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Hello. I'm looking to buy a Sistema Colt off of GB. These qualify as C & R under federal guidelines. Am I able to "import" it into CA, or does CA not recognize C & R status firearms?
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https://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/certguns

I am sure that in the time it took you to post this thread you could have looked this up on your own.
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Depends on what you are asking.

CA follows federal guidelines on C&R, so it would be roster exempt.

CA Ignores federal law on interstate commerce, so if you are asking if you can have it shipped directly to you (assuming you hold a 03 FFL) the answer is no, it needs to go to a 01 FFL, and you need to pay the transfer fees and all the associated hoops to buy it from a California dealer.
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https://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/certguns

I am sure that in the time it took you to post this thread you could have looked this up on your own.
First, thank you for the link. Second, if it was such an annoyance for you to post it, then you could’ve just ignored the thread. It is attitudes from gun owners like yourself that keep people from joining the the gun community and helping with the fight for Second Amendment rights.

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No need for anyone to post put down comments. Trapshooter forum is a classic example of snobs. Hopefully this site will be more friendly. Dimitri was just asking a question that could have been answered with out a put down response.
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The real question is do you have an 01FFL that knows what the heck they are doing and wont charge you $100+ for the transfer? If you do then you are extremely lucky. Cant tell you how many times people have posted about their FFL spreading total FUD about how they couldnt import the gun they bought on GB.
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Lightcav nailed it. Find an FFL willing to work with you. It's more involved than just reading a date on a receiver, find one that will go through date code markings or serial number ranges with you to determine C&R status and other related minutae. Sadly we are bound at the ankles when it comes to C&R pistols, so finding a good FFL is key.
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Dimitri, if you let us know where you are geographically we can recommend C&R friendly FFLs.
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First, thank you for the link. Second, if it was such an annoyance for you to post it, then you couldíve just ignored the thread. It is attitudes from gun owners like yourself that keep people from joining the the gun community and helping with the fight for Second Amendment rights.
Learning how to do a simple search will help you to fight for your Second Amendment Rights in the future. If a comment pointing out how you could have easily found the info you wanted on your own will keep you from joining the gun community and helping with the fight for Second Amendment rights, then you really don't believe that strongly in them.
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Learning how to do a simple search will help you to fight for your Second Amendment Rights in the future. If a comment pointing out how you could have easily found the info you wanted on your own will keep you from joining the gun community and helping with the fight for Second Amendment rights, then you really don't believe that strongly in them.
80% posts on any forum can be easily answered by simply Googling. There is nothing wrong with Dimitiri's question. Calguns thrive on being friendly and helpful.
Your original and this posts are uncalled for, rude and snobbish. Perhaps your tagline is right, you really do need a life.
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Dimitri, if you let us know where you are geographically we can recommend C&R friendly FFLs.
I'm currently located in Downey.
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Iím not familiar with any FFLs down by Downey, but I know of two knowledgeable FFLs in Simi Valley. Closer to you is Alamo Pawn, where I have seen positive signs. I have never run a C&R transfer through them first hand.
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No need for anyone to post put down comments. Dimitri was just asking a question that could have been answered with out a put down response.
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80% posts on any forum can be easily answered by simply Googling. There is nothing wrong with Dimitiri's question. Calguns thrive on being friendly and helpful.
Your original and this posts are uncalled for, rude and snobbish. Perhaps your tagline is right, you really do need a life.
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I'm currently located in Downey.
Aces Jewelry and Loan in West Covina charges $25 + DROS/Tax for Out of State transfers. They are 100% GtG. If you provide them with verification that the pistol is C&R they’ll process the transfer. I’ve used them for years.

ETA: They also recognize the 03+COE 10-day wait exemption for C&R, as well as the Olympic Pistol exemptions.

http://www.acesjewelryandloan.com
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Orange Coast Auctions can help you out and they only charge $35 for transfer

http://www.cwocauctions.com/index.ph...d=83&Itemid=27

Ask to talk with Dave about a transfer of a C&R pistol from gunbroker
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I have a kind of stupid add on question. I dug a little bit but can't find clear answer. It says C&R guns are exempt from the roster. But if I personally haven't received my 03 yet, can the ffl01 I use still receive it for me? He's awesome and charges $20. But I want to make sure I can get the gun.
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I have a kind of stupid add on question. I dug a little bit but can't find clear answer. It says C&R guns are exempt from the roster. But if I personally haven't received my 03 yet, can the ffl01 I use still receive it for me? He's awesome and charges $20. But I want to make sure I can get the gun.
The roster only applies to handguns, so if you're looking to buy a C&R handgun it needs to go to an 01FFL regardless of you having an 03. An 03/COE just gets you out of the 10 day wait if the 01FFL knows what they're doing.
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Learning how to do a simple search will help you to fight for your Second Amendment Rights in the future. If a comment pointing out how you could have easily found the info you wanted on your own will keep you from joining the gun community and helping with the fight for Second Amendment rights, then you really don't believe that strongly in them.
sometimes the statutes and laws can be extremely confusing, especially for someone new to firearms.. if people can come here and get plain engish explanations then all the better.
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