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Keep at them. They'll fix it. 17 24.29%
Give up and shoot it. It's not that bad 20 28.57%
Sell it and get a real Marlin. 33 47.14%
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:41 AM
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For current production lever actions take a look at the mossberg 464.

The actions are smoother than even the old marlin and accuracy is very good.

Mine has been perfect!
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Range update.... Mu remlin is shooting 3 plus inch groups at 150 yards using leverrevolution. Nothing cracked and the scope stayed on (it was installed by my shop.

It looks like I have a gooder... so I'm keeping it. It's not pretty but it works good.


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John, any updates? Hopefully Remlin has got this worked out for you.
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You must drive a BMW OP. You're the guy who can't stand a scratched AR.

Replace the front sight. Marlin will probably reimburse you. Let them know, they'll do something. Their customer service is pretty good. "Wildly lopsided." Jeez dude. It's a rifle, not a damn satellite.

Plus, you never know when you might have to shoot a dinosaur.
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You must drive a BMW OP. You're the guy who can't stand a scratched AR.

Replace the front sight. Marlin will probably reimburse you. Let them know, they'll do something. Their customer service is pretty good. "Wildly lopsided." Jeez dude. It's a rifle, not a damn satellite.

Plus, you never know when you might have to shoot a dinosaur.
Yeah, you must drive a Yugo since your standards are so low.
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You must drive a BMW OP. You're the guy who can't stand a scratched AR.

Replace the front sight. Marlin will probably reimburse you. Let them know, they'll do something. Their customer service is pretty good. "Wildly lopsided." Jeez dude. It's a rifle, not a damn satellite.

Plus, you never know when you might have to shoot a dinosaur.
The stuff OP posted is pretty gnarly for a new gun.....especially considering what quality on these guns used to be.

I bought a mint Glenfield 30A the other day for $260. It is a JM marked 336 sold under the Glenfield name at Wards back in the 70s. The fit and finish is downright spectacular.......way, way better than what the OP posted.
The only reason I got it so cheap is because 90% of people won't even bother to do 5 min of Googling when a "store brand" gun pops up for sale. SO......the deals on JM Marlins are out there to be had, with a bit of patience.


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Old 09-25-2017, 6:52 PM
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Remington has not contacted me yet. I called them last week and all they could tell me is that they passed the rifle on to the factory and that it might need to be totally replaced.

Their customer service is as good as their products. It's terrible.
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While it's obvious the rem rifles are not what the true marlin rifles were ..... I predict a day when you won't even be able to get a new remlin ........and folks will want even those ..... not me ... but someone
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My 1894 that I bought last year has been flawless.

I read that they retooled the 94 and 95's a couple years ago.

Sorry you got a bum. Glad it's working out now.

I've been looking for another lever gun...maybe a 30-30, but I'm still leary of Marlin unless I can hold one in person.

I bought my 94 online from Buds and crossed my fingers and got lucky.
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My 1894 that I bought last year has been flawless.

I read that they retooled the 94 and 95's a couple years ago.

Sorry you got a bum. Glad it's working out now.

I've been looking for another lever gun...maybe a 30-30, but I'm still leary of Marlin unless I can hold one in person.

I bought my 94 online from Buds and crossed my fingers and got lucky.
This was my fear when shopping for a 45-70 a few years back. I settled for a Henry and don't regret it at all. There are pros and cons to the loading system but at least you know you won't get a bad one.
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I have a Remlin 1894c .357 Mag and a Remlin 1894 .44Mag.
I bought both from Turner's and was able to handle and inspect them before purchase.
They are both fine rifles.
I like levers.
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Marlin's are kool...

I have a few...

1895 LTD III .45-70 JM
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This was my fear when shopping for a 45-70 a few years back. I settled for a Henry and don't regret it at all. There are pros and cons to the loading system but at least you know you won't get a bad one.
I was actually weighing the Henry vs a new Marlin......I don't know whether to wait for a unicorn JM Marlin in .45-70 that is selling for below market value, or just bite the bullet and go with a Henry. I think I can get past the loading system, but every Henry I have ever held was heavy for whay it was.

My 336 rifles are nice light and handy.

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I am going to replace the magazine tube on my 1895G with a GBL tube. Should be here tomorrow. $23 for the tube and $7 for the spring. I have been practicing on a piece of 1/2" pipe and have perfected my dovetail. It will be a 1895g/GBL with a 22" barrel, 6 + 1.

07-05-17
Parts came in today. Cut the dovetail, installed new spring. Need to get some blue in a bottle and a blank dovetail.

The old barrel is at the same position it would have been on the barrel. You can also see the old dovetail slot.
Damn - I never got around to doing this! Album from 2008 back when you had to DIY because there was no GBL...Still haven't chopped the barrel and added the full length ammo tube.

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So today I randomly got the rifle back. No update, no shipping notification, nothing. They sent it back in just the Marlin box which isn't adequate for UPS shipping.

In two months, here's what they managed to do:

1) They replaced the buttstock with a still quite poorly fit, but different buttstock.




Thats it.

I'm now pissed. This is absurd. I bought the rifle in July. They still need to fix:

2) The front sight that you can push out with finger pressure
3) The forearm is lopsided
4) The lever has the worst MIM voids I've ever seen
5) The inside of the barrel has some serious rifling issues

Remington totally sucks. Marlin totally sucks. I'm not a fanboy of anything and have owned many great Remington products. The company is truly garbage now.

I'm going to call them again tomorrow and come unglued on them. They're either going to send it back to the factory for a repair (they sent it to some po-dunk shop in Illinois for the repair) or give me a refund.

Marlin sucks. If anybody has an 1895G for sale, PM me.
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So today I randomly got the rifle back. No update, no shipping notification, nothing. They sent it back in just the Marlin box which isn't adequate for UPS shipping.

In two months, here's what they managed to do:

1) They replaced the buttstock with a still quite poorly fit, but different buttstock.




Thats it.

I'm now pissed. This is absurd. I bought the rifle in July. They still need to fix:

2) The front sight that you can push out with finger pressure
3) The forearm is lopsided
4) The lever has the worst MIM voids I've ever seen
5) The inside of the barrel has some serious rifling issues

Remington totally sucks. Marlin totally sucks. I'm not a fanboy of anything and have owned many great Remington products. The company is truly garbage now.

I'm going to call them again tomorrow and come unglued on them. They're either going to send it back to the factory for a repair (they sent it to some po-dunk shop in Illinois for the repair) or give me a refund.

Marlin sucks. If anybody has an 1895G for sale, PM me.
You may find this funny. It's 100% true.

A friend has a Marlin 1895 rifle. I have the Guide Gun. Went to the range a while back and all went well with mine, he couldn't hit nothing. When he did get on paper (finally, at 50 yds) the strikes were obviously keyholed. As in sideways. We went from 405 to 350 to 305 grains. Jacketed to lead. No difference. Gave up, went home.

For some reason I ended up cleaning the guns. Drawing a copper brush with patch through his gun barrel was smooth as silk. And the brush didn't have a habing of unscrewing a bit, as tends to happen when it rides the rifling. Reminded me of ... a shotgun.

No rifling. The shiniest, smoothest bore I've ever seen. Either Marlin forgot to rifle it or they put one of their 410 "1895" barrels on it by mistake. He sent it back, they fixed it fine. Still, you have to wonder how such a thing happens.
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You may find this funny. It's 100% true.

A friend has a Marlin 1895 rifle. I have the Guide Gun. Went to the range a while back and all went well with mine, he couldn't hit nothing. When he did get on paper (finally, at 50 yds) the strikes were obviously keyholed. As in sideways. We went from 405 to 350 to 305 grains. Jacketed to lead. No difference. Gave up, went home.

For some reason I ended up cleaning the guns. Drawing a copper brush with patch through his gun barrel was smooth as silk. And the brush didn't have a habing of unscrewing a bit, as tends to happen when it rides the rifling. Reminded me of ... a shotgun.

No rifling. The shiniest, smoothest bore I've ever seen. Either Marlin forgot to rifle it or they put one of their 410 "1895" barrels on it by mistake. He sent it back, they fixed it fine. Still, you have to wonder how such a thing happens.
I'd have kept it and used it as a unique .410!

I'm just perplexed at the level of incompetence at Remington/Marlin. I had a S&W 617-4 that I managed to shoot out of time. S&W had FedEx pick it up same day, and within 7 business days I had it back with a new barrel and new cylinder and new lockwork. While that was extremely fantastic, Marlin is on the other end. They're the worst.

I'm going to see if they'll send me new sights and a new lever and then shoot the thing. If it runs fine and will group, I'm going to sell it and get a real JM.
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I'm going to sell it and get a real JM.
As far as I know the JM's are the ones to get !

Get a full refund !



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I'm going to see if they'll send me new sights and a new lever and then shoot the thing. If it runs fine and will group, I'm going to sell it and get a real JM.


If I was in your shoes, I'd be pressing them for one thing only - a complete refund.
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There only Marlin that I would buy is their model 60 22lr. They have not screwed that up, yet. Oh some 22lr ammo. Other than that, I am not touching anything else they make.

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That's really too bad. I have a 45/70 from at least ten years ago, it's great. My stepfather had one from I think the 70's when they were supposedly using Douglas barrels, straight stock, he sold it to my buddy. My mom has a 357 Marlin. It's 25+ years old. They were all great guns quality wise and damn if lever actions aren't a ton of fun.

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WOW! Thanks for the update JB. There's no way in hell I'm going to buy an 1895 SBL now. Maybe give it a few more years, if ever.
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Could it be from the transitional period and not newly manufactured?
Serial number could date it.
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This thread is pretty disheartening. I have purchased two 1895Gs and a 336C and they are all Remlins.

I was aware of the bad track record Remington had once they took over Marlin, so I inspected the rifles carefully and the fit/finish was great on all of them. They all shoot well with a fairly smooth action. No different really than my pre-remington 1894.

I thought the QC issues were a thing of the past, based on my experience. Very sad that two good names in firearms are being slowly ground to dust. I applied for a job at Remington years ago and was turned down, maybe that was a good thing!

Hope they do what's right, JB.
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Thanks for the heads up about new production Marlins.

I still have the only Marlin I ever bought.
Marlin Glenfield 30A.

Bought it years ago from a roommate for $65 C&C.

She's not so much a looker but is a shooter.

Recently I was curious-so looked into what year it was produced.

1973.

I'll make sure if I pick up another that its's an older used one as well.

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I'll likely be getting another 1895 when I relocate - the 1 of 1500 I bought in 2016 was a nice gun, for whatever that's worth.
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I have an 1895SBL I got back in 2009(?) and it shoots and looks great. Seems like a quality firearm.

I first heard rumblings of Marlin quality a short time later. I assumed it was a bad patch as the ownership transferred to Remington.

Now, having heard what I've heard (and read horror stories in this thread that have happened RECENTLY), I wouldn't touch Marlin with a 10 foot pole.

At some point, I'm going to buy a lever-action carbine in a revolver caliber (.357 or .44 Magnum), and I'm pretty sure it's going to be a Henry.
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I got a 1895SBL last week. None of the issues this thread has talked about were found on mine thank goodness.
Threw a H1 aim point on mine, its gonna be my bear gun!
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Its really sux about your rifle JB, I wish you luck.
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That really sux. Last year I bought a new 336 that had a date code of 2012. I saw it and wanted a lever gun so I bought it. At the time, I hadn't heard of a Remlin or knew about the problems. I guess I got lucky. Fit, finish and functionality is about what I would have expected from a shooter.
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So I called them yesterday, and the rep said that I should go shoot it before sending to it back. I told her that the barrel would lead in a couple shots due to the rifling problems and that the MIM void in the lever wouldn't hold up to the overpressure. I could possibly blow myself up.

Once I said it wasn't safe, their lawyer training took over and immediately she said it needs to go back to the factory.

So, here we go again. I am sending it back with a note to contact me for a refund if they can't be sure they got it right.

So, here I am with a rifle I bought July 4th that I still can't safely shoot. There is no excuse for this type of product QC or customer service.
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I love my new 1895sbl, bought it last month even after reading all those sob stories of bad QC.
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Love my 1895 CB that I bought Nov2016. Support your local CA Guns Shop and inspect your rifle in person before buying, rather than trying to save $60 through online distributors.

There seems to be about 1 in every 25 of the “remlins are horrible guns” crowd that have a first person account of bad QC. The rest seems like regurgitation with no experience.

OP, what is your serial number prefix? I’m curious if this one sat in a warehouse since the 2009-2013 days.
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It is a new production, April 2017. The prefix is MR, which is the prefix of all Remington made Marlin rifles. Prefix dating if Marlin hasn't been possible since they were sold.

This rifle is plagued with so many major QC problems and the customer service has been so poor that I honestly question anybody who would think that Marlin has"some" problems.

This is far and away the worst made gun I have ever seen. I have seen a lot.
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It is a new production, April 2017. The prefix is MR, which is the prefix of all Remington made Marlin rifles. Prefix dating if Marlin hasn't been possible since they were sold.

This rifle is plagued with so many major QC problems and the customer service has been so poor that I honestly question anybody who would think that Marlin has"some" problems.

This is far and away the worst made gun I have ever seen. I have seen a lot.
Perhaps they had a period when they were making lemons?
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Old 10-12-2017, 6:43 PM
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Yeah, the period for making lemons is from the day Remington took over until now.

These problems are all the result of vastly different steps run by different people. One of the mistakes is understandable. The collection here is representative of a company who hired unskilled labor to run improperly set up/maintained machines with zero QC oversight. I'd have gladly paid more for a completely usable rifle.

The worse news is that when you get your lemon, the company is totally incompetent in fixing the issues. I bought this rifle July 4th and will be lucky to shoot it in November for the first time.

I cannot imagine any reason that I will ever buy another Remington product ever again. They won't be around long as a result of the corporate bean counting, which is a tragic end for a historic American gun maker.
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So much anger
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Yep, I have gone from

1. Hopeful prospective buyer
2. Disappointed but understanding owner
3. Perplexed and vexed owner
4. Angry customer who is going to tell everybody
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So much anger


And rightfully so.
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