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Old 12-07-2017, 7:27 AM
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Default Lever action help....

I just bought this winchester 1892 chambered in .357 my first lever action.

Is there any steps I should take before shooting it for the first time and or to aid break in?

I notice if I hold the muzzle down an inch or two it cycles 38spc fine otherwise not so much.

What are the front sight dovetail specs I would like to get a fiber optic front sight of available.

I read that linseed oil may not be good for the stock but would like to find something to enhance the finish..



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Old 12-07-2017, 8:14 AM
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Beautiful rifle. I'd just clean it really well before hand. Run a patch down the bore.

BTW, wrong sub-forum for leverguns. This will probably get moved, so don't freak out if that happens.
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Old 12-07-2017, 8:15 AM
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Looks like a POV of a break in; can't imagine SD being cold at all.

Congrats on the rifle!

Hopefully your thread will get more replies once it's moved to the manually operated section. Let us know how she shoots, I've never owned a lever action....yet
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Old 12-07-2017, 8:32 AM
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Since you are talking about break-in, I'm assuming that it is a brand new Miroku built rifle?

If so, then you got one of the absolute best out-of-the-box '92's available new today. Like said above, run a couple of CLP patches down the bore and go shooting. Shooting these rifles (or just repeatedly working the lever while sitting on the couch watching re-runs of The Rifleman on Saturday mornings) is one of the easiest and best ways of further smoothing the action of a lever gun.

Like most lever guns chambered in 357 MAG/38 SPL, it will show certain feeding preferences based on COAL and bullet shape. If you reload, then try to get as close as possible to the COAL of 357 MAG. I also find that truncated cone flat point bullets can sometimes work better than standard round nose.

If you don't re-load, then just try to get as many different brands of 38 and 357 ammo that you can, and try them out for function. I've had '92's which choked on "the good stuff" but cycled cheap ammo flawlessly.

Enjoy your new lever gun, but be warned that it probably won't be your last!
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Linseed oil will do nothing for that stock, it is finished with a varnish already.

If you want nicer looking wood, you can strip and refinish what you have, or buy some walnut replacement wood and finish it.
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Old 12-07-2017, 9:11 AM
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Sorry about the wrong sub forum but thanks for the replies...

I'm down for the watching the rifleman TV and breaking in the action LoL

I was thinking rubbing balistol or something on the stock would bring out more grain highlights but if it's varnished I guess not

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Old 12-07-2017, 9:22 AM
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My newer Japanese made Winchester 92 likes Remington 38 special 125 grain soft point factory ammunition.

It does not like any of my stock of 158 grain 38 special ammunition.

It likes ALL my 357 ammunition so far.

Of course, your mileage may vary...
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Nice.

I have a Rossi in .357/.38 and enjoy it.
It is smoothing out after about 500 rounds and several hundred dry cycles.

Mine likes round nose and truncated cone bullets. .38 and .357 run fine.

I had feeding issues with jacketed soft point rounds.
The flat was too wide and would catch while trying to load. (Glad I also have a 686+.)

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My Winchester 94 357 jams repeatedly with 38's (common problems with 94's which were designed for rifle length cartridges) , and is a bit==h to clear when a round jams under the carrier. Probably why it only says 357 on the barrel. It does shoot 38's well when loaded 1 at a time into the chamber. I've read that lightening or cutting off a few coils of the magazine spring may help.
Per the stock, you'd probably have to strip off all the original finish and then stain and finish the wood. It would get darker, but the grain is pretty straight and I don't think you'll gain much visually.
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My Winchester 94 357 jams repeatedly with 38's (common problems with 94's which were designed for rifle length cartridges) , and is a bit==h to clear when a round jams under the carrier. Probably why it only says 357 on the barrel. It does shoot 38's well when loaded 1 at a time into the chamber. I've read that lightening or cutting off a few coils of the magazine spring may help.
Per the stock, you'd probably have to strip off all the original finish and then stain and finish the wood. It would get darker, but the grain is pretty straight and I don't think you'll gain much visually.
Thanks..I picked through three rifles but none of them had interesting grain patterns that I was hoping for

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I have a Winchester (Miroku) 1873 357/38 that, thanks to its unique elevator style lifter I think, runs perfectly with any 357 or 38 I have put through it. It's my favorite rifle.

Congrats on that 1892, those are real hard to find.

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I have a Winchester (Miroku) 1873 357/38 that, thanks to its unique elevator style lifter I think, runs perfectly with any 357 or 38 I have put through it. It's my favorite rifle.

Congrats on that 1892, those are real hard to find.

I like that leather butt stock piece... Did you make it?

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I have the Rossi 92, not a Winchester/Miroku. I took it to a casual CAS match and at the enf of the night my index finger was swollen from the stiff loading gate and the sharp (squared off) walls of the loading gate itself.

The wood on the Rossi isn't the nicest either. It's very plain in color and grain.
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I have the Rossi 92, not a Winchester/Miroku. I took it to a casual CAS match and at the enf of the night my index finger was swollen from the stiff loading gate and the sharp (squared off) walls of the loading gate itself.

The wood on the Rossi isn't the nicest either. It's very plain in color and grain.
Speed loader discussion/link for some leverguns:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1195136

Works OK, probably better with more practice.

My Rossi is loosening up finally, but that gate is small for my hands.
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I have a few Rossi 92s in 357. When I get a new 92 I cycle the action about 1000 times before I shoot it, it's makes the action a little smoother.

IMO, tru-oil is the best finish for your stock.

That's a fine gun you have, I'm jellin big time. I have a couple USA made Winchester, their great guns.
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I had a Win/Miroku 92 in .357. It was sensitive to Cartridge OAL. .357 was GTG, .38s had to be loaded long, out past the crimp groove a good deal, in order to cycle without standing a round on end and jamming the works.

I was using it for CAS so it got old...so I sold it and got a Win/Miroku '73. Now thats a slick gun.

I still have a '92 in .45 Colt and it, too is COAL sensitive but its just a matter of getting things dialed in on the reloading press.

The wood on the '92 is kinda plain. I've rubbed on oil and all but it hasn't changed the color much. I think you'd have to sand it a bit to get the oil to soak in.
I decided the finish is fine and gave up wanting to change it.
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Cycle the lever while watching tv, it helps to smooth things out. Also when your ready to shoot and your at the range, work the lever like a man, don’t be gentle. Working the lever softly will cause jams.
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I like that leather butt stock piece... Did you make it?

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Nope, it was made by Jon Klein at gunstockcover.com. He does awesome work.
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Nope, it was made by Jon Klein at gunstockcover.com. He does awesome work.
Jon is a great guy to deal with and he makes great leather products at a very good price.
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CAS requires so much shooting that almost all competitors are realoaders in order to afford their hobby. What they mainly do is to reload .357 mag cases with .38 special loads for their lever rifles.
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CAS requires so much shooting that almost all competitors are realoaders in order to afford their hobby. What they mainly do is to reload .357 mag cases with .38 special loads for their lever rifles.
Or .38 cases with 90gr mouse-fart "gamer" loads. Not much more recoil than a .22. That's part of the speed aspect, the other part being lots of practice.
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Range report:

I went to a indoor range tonite and shot freedom munitions 38spl and federal .357

I shot at 10 yards just to get a feel for the sights, the hold, and cycling a lever action.

It felt great..I didn't have any jams and shooting 38spl isn't a problem I just hold the muzzle down just a little bit and it works great.

I was for the second time shooting my 586 which share ammo with the 1892...

I'm very happy with them both



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Some 92's are sensitive with 38's and OAL. In my Rossi, I load them a little long and have never had a problem.
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