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the key to this fight might be convincing the other bill writers that if Yee's bill passes theirs wont, so they need to defeat his bill or theirs wont pass
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As far as gun control goes, the Democrats can and will do whatever they want to do. Moonbeam may or may not veto some bills, but some will make it no matter what. It will take years for courts to undo the wrongs - if ever. Again, knowing that the outcome is certain should not deter anyone from raging against that outcome. The Alamo would not stand for what it does if those who knew they were going to die took Santa Ana's early offer to walk away. The Constitution is what is at stake - who cares about California? Whatever made this state such a great place to live vanished long ago in the deluge of illegals and welfare dependents who suck the life out of the rest of us - encouraged by the government unions all the way. It is not just a California problem, it is the American nightmare. I repeat the question, will there be an Alamo in California?
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The Democrats may have won a super majority, but they are not robots with a common mindset and goals. They will fracture, they already have, with the wingnuts pushing for too much too soon, which alarms the halfway sane into thinking they might lose their goals by waking up Republicans and moderates. You can be as afraid of the sky falling as you want. It isn't.
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Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm Last edited by Scarecrow Repair; 02-18-2013 at 6:34 AM.. |
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unless you are much older than me I'm not sure when you have encountered "far worse". It's as bad as it's ever been in the last 45-50 years... and prior, as far as I know it was great. Unless there is MAJOR change (which wont happen in the near or even distant future) - it is not on any road to recovery by any stretch of the imagination... So like many things in life, we work with what we have - or make our own life changes (in this case move to a more sound state).
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They want to make it a Felony to have any hollow point bullets. As a match shooter, that is bull****. These people make my blood boil.
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this is the consequences of voting. most people have zero clue there is one in the first place.
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The bill is set for hearing on April 16th along with SB 374 on the same day
SB 47 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...arch_keywords= SB 374 http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...avClient.xhtml |
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I don't know, but its probably wise to keep those thoughts to ourselves, last time we basically wrote the bill for them, don't want a repeat there lol.
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1) Requires you to register any detachable-magazine-fed rifle that you own (regardless of action type and when acquired) 2) Extends the SB47 definition of "assault weapons" to include ALL detachable-mag semi-auto rifles INCLUDING rimfires. The conspicuous inclusion of language lifted directly from 47 in 374 implies that 374 would be the preferred vector of attack...
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im still trying to figure out what the definition of detachable magazine is. Ive seen the "dis-assembly of the action" line, but what does that really mean? I have a lever action rifle that I can remove the tubular magazine from without disassembling the action. Also have a bolt action Winchester model 70 (just like millions of other Americans) that I could disassemble the "magazine" without dis-assembly of the action. Would those both need to be registered? If so, dont worry about flooding the system with useless hammer and axe registrations, the guns actually required to be registered would do that all on their own
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Every Lee-Enfield owner should register.
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It is so poorly written that almost everything can be included unless otherwise exempted.
Also, did anyone notice that you can only pay by credit card or debit card? What happens to those with bad credit, or don't believe in anything other than cash and checks?
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http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...=201320140SB47
Tons of amendments today. Allows internet registration for a fee. Sounds like a poll tax - $20/weapon, $15/person. Interesting part: The fee shall be deposited in the Dealers’ Record of Sale Special Account - the $20M fund that we've all paid into. We should be entitled to a refund for that. |
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Refund?? LoL they are fixin to raid, pillage and plunder that DROS fund. Quote:
'not to exceed the reasonable processing costs' - yea right, then how is there 20 million surplus in the DROS fund? and now they want to pump it up some more Quote:
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The phrase "exclude from those provisions" has been changed to "exempt from punishment."
WTF? Is it just me, or does anybody find this kind of wording messed up? And after the Bonta end exemptions thing, changing wording from "exclude" to "exempt from punishment" is kinda scary. Maybe I need to break out the tin foil hat.
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gotta fight it tooth and nail...this guy, yee, is truly unbalanced...all you have to do is read his stuff: "Studies show...." just think about the population of the states compared...FACTS show differently according to FBI records...Jon Lott's extensive research show "More guns=less crime"...
wasn't the Stockton tragedy done by a woman, Brenda Spencer, IIRC and, she used a .22 rifle, NOT an "Assault rifle".
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Any mention of limits on sun tan oil and hookers yet?
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So how can we stop the senate subcommittee from passing this? I wish this was put up for a public vote and not some backroom sketchy deal...
http://www.followthemoney.org/databa....phtml?uc=4419 Looks like he has some serious support funds...... Last edited by enkrypt3d; 04-23-2013 at 2:14 PM.. |
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It's going to pass out of committee. The political fallout if it didn't would be too high. The only change that is remotely likely prior to the legislature passing this is the inclusion of an exemption list for "legitimate sporting arms" similar to DiFi's list that would include rifles such as the Ruger 10/22, Browning BAR stalker hunting rifle, etc to limit opposition from hunters.
This one is going to the courts and will essentially be a test of the "Common Use" language in the Heller case. |
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They just have to run their mouths, regardless of the consequences.
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The cost analysis of this is our only hope with respect to getting any help from Appropriations. Anyone have a thumbnail as to what this turd will cost?
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