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It's fine if it says Sig or Smith & Wesson M&P on the side.
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We are running G21s with Winchester Ranger +P 230s no problems.
Have not had a chance to run G21SF yet.
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Actually... a few G21's experienced feeding failures when running the +P and it's actually a documented occurrence that the range staff switched to the non +P Rangers for the 45 cal.
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^^^^ This ^^^^ The dept had to quit issuing the Ranger .45acp+p for the G21's because of numerous (and very different) failures caused by the higher pressure ammo in the G21's . Those of us who carried guns that could handle the +p ammo (Sig/HK/etc) begged them to let us keep carrying it but they refused due to the logistics of purchasing different ammo in the same caliber.....read: it cost to much. Many of us even offered to buy it ourselves and they still refused.
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Funny how all of the malfunctions at the range didn't mean anything until it was a real life scenario that ended up bring about the closer examination and ammo change. Thankfully, the deputy(s) involved were not hurt. I will say the Glock 21 has seen no malfunctions on the standard velocity Ranger ammo.
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The range staff gave me some new mags and said try that... Didn't work. I eventually gave up and went to 9mm. Figured it was better to be able to put 9mm down range consistently than always having to second guess if I am going to have a jam. That lack of confidence is a bad feeling to have in your duty sidearm.
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I know this reply will be subject to some hits from the peanut gallery but our issued 9mm +p+ out performs the std velocity .45acp by a wide margin. And that is straight from first hand experience as well as the guys that investigate OISs. Regardless of caliber, I want ballistic performance and that outweighs any sentimental feeling I have toward toward the .45acp.
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Last edited by yzErnie; 07-10-2012 at 6:58 PM.. |
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Another bonus is I get 4 more rounds per mag with the 9mm. 6 more rounds if I use the +2 floorplates.
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Yzernie...can you explain a little more about what you saw that made you believe the 9 performed better? We are issued .40 and will soon be able to pick 9 or .45.
No agenda here...want to use a caliber that I can shoot accurately and do the most damage with. Thanks. |
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I'll send you a PM.
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