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Silver lining of a federal 10 round limit?
If it stands as written, allowing current owners to keep their existing standard capacity magazines, I foresee a lot more vendors offering rebuild kits for sale. Gun manufacturers may even begin shipping them unassembled.
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Ya, I'm sure that is how it will go down.
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So in 1994 the AWB was passed
All mags had the restricted label LEO / MIL only No rebuilt kits were available to the public... I think that one double stack 1911 manufacturer was selling bodies for repair Glock sold no mag bodies Glock mags got up to the $100-$135 range. At least they do not wear out So when the feed lips cracked on your mag or one was dented- it was a gonner
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My only thought of a silver lining is that it would maybe bring more handguns one step closer to meeting all of the California requirements we already have and maybe we might see some handguns on the list that we didn't have before...like an xdm where on paper, a 10 rd magazine (and of course drop test/payment) is what's keeping it out of California.
But that's just a misery loves company kinda of thought. Last edited by mann0mann; 01-18-2013 at 6:54 AM.. Reason: Clarified point |
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How would that work?
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The roster has nothing to do with magazine capacity, so a federal 10-round limit would do nothing to help get more guns on the roster.
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Word.
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The silver lining would be the preliminary injunction blocking enforcement of the federal ban, leading to the ban being stricken as unconstitutional under the common-use test in Heller and thus being applied to the California limit via McDonald.
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To the OP:
I really think you should sit down with yourself and think about what you just said. Then, before the next time you make a statement about silver linings (or making lemonade out of lemons), you think about 10 day (or any day) waiting periods, on/off roster lists, bullet buttons, and all the other cr*p we have had to live with here in CA. I'm here to tell you, that it used to be that you could carry a gun, loaded, openly on your hip here in Ca. I'm here to tell you , that we used to be able to just sell a gun, any gun, to a buddy, or a complete stranger at a garage sale. I'm here to tell you, that we used to be able to walk into a gun store, and walk out with a shotgun, rifle, or handgun. Maybe you're a young guy, and have just grown up with all the nonsense those of us who have been around here for awhile have seen go away. There is no silver lining, there is no "good" thing about any of it. Last edited by bill_k_lopez; 01-17-2013 at 7:46 AM.. |
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If the feds issue such a ban, just as they did in 94, they will require any magazine that is produced after the ban to have a date stamp on it and some other info. So any mag kits sold would still have the date stamp and if you are caught with one of those even after "repairing" your old mag, you will be a goner.
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This is akin to saying that the silver lining of being raped is, "hey, at least you're getting laid."
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I think the biggest issue is that no matter what laws are passed, they will only work on people who by definition are law abiding. To make new laws now, I say too little too late. There are enough hi cap mags, AR's, etc... in circulation already between the US, Mexico and Canada. If a criminal wants to get his or her hands on anything, it will be just as easy today as it will be 10 years from now. Criminals are not going into gun stores and legally purchasing anything, not even ammo. There are so many numbers of sources that are off the radar. How many soldiers have tucked an extra magazine or 2 into their bags when returning from deployment? How many have already been sold? How many are holding onto them right now? How many of these guys are pissed off after being mistreated and lied to by their government? There are thousands of items unaccounted for out there in the world and they are all for sale at the right price. That is just 1 small example. The only people this will have any affect on is the people who follow the law.
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Silver lining?
Not so much. But I'm sure Yee and his minions thank you for openly posting recommendations to further strengthen their attempts to eliminate the 2A. I mean what better way to eliminate loopholes but by talking about them on an open public forum. Good job!
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Silver lining?
Not so much. But I'm sure Yee and his minions thank you for openly posting recommendations to further strengthen their attempts to eliminate the 2A. I mean what better way to eliminate loopholes but by talking about them on an open public forum. Good job!
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What makes you think federal law will allow for rebuilding of presently owned greater capacity magazines? Also, are you aware CA is attempting to now ban "magrebuild kits"?
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Btw I piss on California every day, off the deck, at about 6:30. There used to be a Google earth shot of that. In the summer of course.
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That's like saying "at least they are letting us keep 10 round magazines" All that will happen is the same thing that happened in New York, they will tighten up later.
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Yeah, this... lets see, I am almost 50, so by the time this goes down
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An AW/hi cap mag ban doesn't do anything other than hinder the law abiding public. You're punishing the people who didn't do anything wrong and most likely would never do anything like any of the recent incidents. This is a people control issue, not an implement control issue and should be looked at as such. |
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Since new +10 round magazine bodies will be date stamped, they won't be able to be sold to or used by non LEOs or non military. The only "rebuild kits" will have to be manufactured prior to the date of a potential taking affect. No silver lining.
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Yes, lets keep discussing the possible unintended consequences so that we can help them write even tighter laws.
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Infringement on liberties in any way = EPIC FAIL!
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Quick, Did you see that little bunny.
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The silver lining for US is that more companies will make 10 round magazines, which means the ones we have to use will get cheaper.
CZ-75 10 rounders are (were) $45 a piece because it was a freak low run magazine. If the whole USA is forced to use them, they might come down in price. |
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Or it will stay 45 dollars because the manufacturers got the gun owners by the nuts.
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Not a good thing. All the Gun Mfgs would have stock piles of the ten round magazines. This would be needed to fill all civilian orders. We do buy a lot more then LEO. The Standard Capacity magazines would be in limited supply. They would be produced in batches for LEO or Military contracts. Therefor fewer Standard Capacity Magazines would be stocked by local distributors due to the smaller market.
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