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Old 12-31-2017, 4:11 PM
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Is it going to take the BX drop in trigger and other 10/22 parts?
Apparently, yes.
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Ordered.
About 50 people ahead of me on the list at my Turners.
Guess word got out. LOL
I'm gonna wait awhile, I don't care if I get one of the first ones on the market.

Learned my lesson about getting the "first one or being first inline".

First lesson was special ordering a new 2004 Ford F150 in 2003, before all the complaints started showing up.

Second lesson was NOT to let "the other guys let you pass them up to the head of the line at the asphalt batch plant and be first one to load!" Lets just say it took a lot of gasoline, rags and elbow grease from the owner and me to get the liquid asphalt off the cab of the truck all while the load is cooling!

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I'm gonna wait awhile, I don't care if I get one of the first ones on the market.

Learned my lesson about getting the "first one or being first inline".
I'm waiting as well.

Reason being...
1. First production runs tend to have problems (reference past Ruger recalls on first runs of SR9, LCP, American Rimfire Rifle, Mark IV).
2. Wait for new factory variations to be made/offered.
3. Wait for third party accesory market to catch up.
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I'm waiting as well.

Reason being...
1. First production runs tend to have problems (reference past Ruger recalls on first runs of SR9, LCP, American Rimfire Rifle, Mark IV).
2. Wait for new factory variations to be made/offered.
3. Wait for third party accesory market to catch up.
All good reasons. I am comfortable that Ruger will fix any problem so #1 doesn't scare me off. #3 should be there for me too. #2 though... Yeah, I would like to see some wood furniture or maybe a stainless model.

But I just... can't.... wait

If this thing is as accurate as the Hipoint 995, I might sell that off and not hassle with the pistol grip/featureless/aw problem.
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There is always a little risk in something new.
But I think this isn't revolutionary, perhaps the glock mag adapters, that might be the only issue where there could be problems. I see gunblast.com has been running one already and not seeing anything concerning for something new out of the box......

"Recoil was mild, even with the +P ammunition, and again, the weapon ran perfectly. Switching out to the Glock mag well, I loaded a thirty-three round Glock magazine, again with the CCI FMJ ammo, which ran flawlessly, with two exceptions: I had one failure-to-feed early on, and one failure-to-eject a few magazines later. Other than those two incidents, the PC Carbine ran smoothly with every other cartridge tried. Even the Lehigh Extreme Penetrator ammo, which will sometimes hang up while feeding. ran perfectly in the Ruger PC Carbine. "
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I think the smart advice would be to wait until next year to order.



Like maybe tomorrow or Tuesday morning.


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From Ruger website...

It will come with an additional magazine well insert that will accept Glock magazines (for free) and it will use 10/22 trigger parts/packs.
I've had a few 10/22 and quality seems to be hit or miss. Let's see how the quality on these are.

However, since this is featureless, uses a 10/22 trigger pack and accepts Glock mags? I definitely want one.
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Will definitely be on the top of my 2018 gun buys list. Got plenty of Glock mags, but also hoping for XD adapter.
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I'm going to wait a while too or maybe pick up a bargain on a PC9.
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What would be a good scope to go with this?
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What would be a good scope to go with this?
Not gonna reach out too far with 9mm. I'd get a red dot or HWS. TRS25 would be fine, EOTech XPS2 if you want to splurge. I'm sticking with the irons for now. The peep rear should be nice.
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Scope wise I would go with a Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4x for that light weight. But really I think a red dot would de better. I would put a Holosun on it
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I'd go with a Leupold Delta Point. Very fast on target.
No need for magnification with the limits of the 9mm clambering.
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There was only 20 before me when I put my deposit down on Saturday.
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Damn Ruger is knocking it out of the park again. Picked up a Ruger Precision rifle and now I want this one.
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Ok, if I have CZ Scorpion /9mm blowback carbine/, why should I get this Ruger?

Is it going to shoot any different, better, worse?
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Man if this existed a few months ago
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Looks like they’re running the Vortex AMG UH-1 (couldn’t they have come up with a better name, haha!!) in the Ruger video. Interesting choice.

I’ve got a grip of Glock mags, and this looks really interesting. I’m partial to .40 S&W so I might wait this one out. A 10mm variant would be the Bee’s Knees, though!!
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Damn Ruger is knocking it out of the park again. Picked up a Ruger Precision rifle and now I want this one.
Yeah, you'd think Glock would see the interest in this. People have been wanting them to come out with a carbine for a long time.
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This gun will be a winner! It is so much like a 10/22 it will have few problems if any.

I only need it to be in .40 S&W cuz I don't do 9MM. This will only take a different barrel and bolt face to become reality. Hopefully I can talk Mark into it at SHOT in a few weeks.

This gun is your low cost entry into PCC matches that AR9's are not.

They will sell all they can make. I'll even sell my S2K if I can get one of these.

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I have a feeling that Keltec or someone else will release a similar featureless 9mm soon. A 4 pound SU-9CA would sell too.
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Beretta adapters would be a good thing to see too. Maybe aftermarket.
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Yeah, you'd think Glock would see the interest in this. People have been wanting them to come out with a carbine for a long time.
For real, seriously Glock would've had a smash hit.
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Will the magpul glock mags work with this carbine? I'm not familiar with glocks or own any.
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Will the magpul glock mags work with this carbine? I'm not familiar with glocks or own any.
They should work, same retention as OEM Glock mags to the mag catch/release.
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Looks like they’re running the Vortex AMG UH-1 (couldn’t they have come up with a better name, haha!!) in the Ruger video. Interesting choice.

I’ve got a grip of Glock mags, and this looks really interesting. I’m partial to .40 S&W so I might wait this one out. A 10mm variant would be the Bee’s Knees, though!!
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This gun will be a winner! It is so much like a 10/22 it will have few problems if any.

I only need it to be in .40 S&W cuz I don't do 9MM. This will only take a different barrel and bolt face to become reality. Hopefully I can talk Mark into it at SHOT in a few weeks.

This gun is your low cost entry into PCC matches that AR9's are not.

They will sell all they can make. I'll even sell my S2K if I can get one of these.

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I have a feeling that Keltec or someone else will release a similar featureless 9mm soon. A 4 pound SU-9CA would sell too.
Given that it's blowback it needs a reasonably heavy bolt, so I doubt they'd be able to lighten it that much. I suppose it might be possible if it was locked breech, but of course that adds to cost.
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Ok, if I have CZ Scorpion /9mm blowback carbine/, why should I get this Ruger?
You shouldn’t. At least until we get ours.
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You need significantly more bolt weight for 40 vs 9, and then even more bolt weight for 10mm... you don't see many blowback 10mm carbines, and there's a reason for that

Given that it's blowback it needs a reasonably heavy bolt, so I doubt they'd be able to lighten it that much. I suppose it might be possible if it was locked breech, but of course that adds to cost.
I hear you...I will say that my Keltec SUB-2K (Gen 1) in .40 S&W weighs the same as the 9mm. Published weights on the Gen 2’s are also the same.

My feeling is that, like with the RPR, they will have another big seller on their hands and will quickly add caliber variants and general improvements. Cool deal for CA.
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Ok, if I have CZ Scorpion /9mm blowback carbine/, why should I get this Ruger?

Is it going to shoot any different, better, worse?
not going to be that much different besides hand grip position. since this doesn't need the fin on the grip.

if you already got a 9mm PCC then you can probably wait until a upgraded version releases that adds some new features or changes in caliber.
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Sadly it looks like the 10rd version doesn't have a threaded barrel
Don't understand the two different capacity versions. Isn't it based on the mag being used?
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Don't understand the two different capacity versions. Isn't it based on the mag being used?
One for free states (17 round mag and threaded barrel) and one for CA and NY (10 round mags and no threaded barrel).
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They're probably trying to keep the 10 round as PC as possible... Hence no threaded barrel

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One for free states (17 round mag and threaded barrel) and one for CA and NY (10 round mags and no threaded barrel).
And that is because of the NY law.
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Ok, if I have CZ Scorpion /9mm blowback carbine/, why should I get this Ruger?
Would be like asking why I picked up a CZ 75b and a Sig P226 when I already have a Glock 17, answering being "just because".
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Would be like asking why I picked up a CZ 75b and a Sig P226 when I already have a Glock 17, answering being "just because".
I have no problems having very similar weapons, like many people, I own more than one AR15. My question was more about the Ruger being better weapon than the CZ or not.
And Yes, most likely I will wait a little bit, and if reviews are good, will get at least on of those Rugers- got room in the safe to store it, got 2 kids that will enjoy 9mm carbine, the rifle is inexpensive, looks like a winner.

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depending on price... I'd totally buy one.
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It'd be nice to get the threaded barrel and use a comp... actually have one on my SU-16 just because. But honestly I'll probably take whatever I can get first.

Ya never know. It might be easier to find the 17 round version and lose the useless mag when things shake out (I don't have a SR and that Glock module is going in as soon as I open the box - because I'm a Glock Fanboy, hahah.)
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Is it going to shoot any different, better, worse?
Already featureless, no neutering required. Breaks down into a much more compact size for transportation allowing you to carry a bag that does not scream "rifle."

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If something like this was made in Austria I think 922r would come into play, which may or may not affect you particularly.
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That's what I plan on doing once the dust settles.

A factory threaded barrel is worth a lot more to me than a Ruger mag. I'm thinking a muzzle brake from FM Products would be a good fit.

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Originally Posted by crufflers View Post
Ya never know. It might be easier to find the 17 round version and lose the useless mag when things shake out (I don't have a SR and that Glock module is going in as soon as I open the box - because I'm a Glock Fanboy, hahah.)
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