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Old 04-03-2015, 10:37 AM
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Default Remington 03A3

I am looking at buying Remington 03A3 that looks to be in great condition.

Here is what I know about the rifle:

Previous owner bought it years ago and never fired it.
Lyman rear sight
serial# 3,127,xxx
RA 9-43 stamped barrel
2 groove
Arsenal Refurbished.

The gentleman could not tell me if the stock had been refinished/refurbished. Since the bore is bright and the stock looks almost like a new m1a wood stock, my guess is this was Arsenal Refurbished as well?

Anyways how will I know if the barrel and receiver are matching? Also based on the information, what would you pay?
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:51 AM
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I would need to see pictures before I hazard a guess. The Lyman peep is not original to the rifle, so I'd want to see what else was buggered up on it. The receiver date would put it sometime in 1941, so a 1943 barrel would probably be a replacement.

Any cartouches on the stock, or is it a new replacement set?
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:20 PM
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If the receiver was drilled & tapped for the Lyman sight, it really cuts into the collector value. I'd also be interested to know if there are any markings on the stock. Can you get some pics to post?
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The Lyman peep does knock $50 or more off the price. And it does raise a red flag as to other mods which may have been done. If it is otherwise 100% usgi original as refurbed, it should be in the 500-650 range.
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:31 PM
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This is the only picture I have at the moment
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Serial number puts it at about June 1942.
The stock & rear sight are not original to 03A3s.Looks like it has milled trigger guard, also not original to 03A3, I think. The Lyman rear sight is worth about $100+ by its self and the C Stock is worth about $150 or so if it's a repro, $200 and up if it's an original Military stock.
Looks like a nice rifle!! What does the guy want for it?
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Old 04-03-2015, 2:24 PM
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$625, tempted to buy it
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Old 04-03-2015, 2:36 PM
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Serial number puts it at about June 1942.
The stock & rear sight are not original to 03A3s.Looks like it has milled trigger guard, also not original to 03A3, I think. The Lyman rear sight is worth about $100+ by its self and the C Stock is worth about $150 or so if it's a repro, $200 and up if it's an original Military stock.
Looks like a nice rifle!! What does the guy want for it?
Agree. Trigger guard not 03A3. Finish on receiver, bolt, trigger guard, and suspect butt plate not original. Butt plate, trigger guard and bolt were blued originally. Trigger guard was a stamped piece originally.
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$625, tempted to buy it
I'd buy it for that, if I didn't already have one. Mine is similar to that one except for rear sight. Attachment 402992 It was in a sporter stock when I got it.

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I thought the original 1903 had a blued finish and the 03A3 was parkerized?
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Yeah O3A3 was mostly parkerized with only some of the parts blued.
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So $625 is a fair price? Should I put the usgi scope mount on there? I might take it hunting to Montana this summer
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I thought the original 1903 had a blued finish and the 03A3 was parkerized?
Bolt, trigger guard, butt plate, rear sight, front sight blade, misc screws and pins, follower, mag spring, sling swivels were blue, not parked. Though after refurbished, these would be parked is my guess.

FYI, PM if interested in a no drill scope mount and rings for an 03 As I listed for sale.
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Looks like a Greek return rifle, around 2004. Many were arsenal over hauled, the last 4 of the serial number appears on the right side of the stock. The black oxide finish is also a give away, I bought 2 of them in 04, one with a C-stock. $300 apiece. A2
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USMCM16A2,

I dont know what those numbers are but they are different from the serial #
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USMCM16A2,

I dont know what those numbers are but they are different from the serial #
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Ghillie,

Looks like a Greek return rifle,
That's what I was thinking. The finish and the stock rack number scream Greek.
As for value, it's hard to say. What do you want to pay for a
Lyman Sporting 48 and US C stock on a sound looking 03-A3? Those aren't bad features. Neither is the milled trigger guard. It ain't a collector piece, but looks mighty fine for shooting the crap out of it.
"Correct" A3's go for a bit more these days, don't they?

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But is it worth spending $625?
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It's worth it if you're looking for a shooter. If you're wanting a correct one it'll probably cost you a couple hundred more to get one now days.
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probably not. it's not a ripoff if the barrel is like new and the gun shoots well.

the stock was notched for that sight. when you take the sight off, the notch will always be there.

TG and buttplate are 1903. just like on the greek I got from the CMP.

the original rear sight is missing. you have 3 things to replace to correct it, and the receiver will always have holes and the stock will always be cut out for the sight. so, if you want something in military trim, you should pass.

look on the completed sales on gunbroker to get a value on what 03A3s actually sold for. looks like they have been selling for less than $600 in original condition.

so, if originality is not important to you, and you want a shooter, and are impatient, $625 is not too bad.

otherwise, I would wait.

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I was gonna shoot the hell out of it lol
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Looks like a fun shooter. See if there is a letter K stamped on the stock under the mag cut off.
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The stock is probably notched to permit proper fitting of the Lyman sight. A great fun shooter but not a good investment. Its worth what you are willing to pay for it. If I had a spare 600 laying about with nothing to spend it on, I'd buy it.
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I really enjoy the 03A3 as a shooting rifle. More than say a 700 in 30-06. It isn't an action that I would hot load for, and that's the only downside really. It's a bit much for a "shooter" but I'd likely do it. I spent basically $1k on a correct one right before the FTF C&R thing went away.

The other option is to look for a real sporter 03A3, you should find one for about $50-$100 cheaper.
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