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Good luck on the 11th. Let us know how it went. I've got a 1 on 1 on the 15th |
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Regarding SJ County CalGuns members involved in this:
Have any of you been formally DENIED??? Have any of you been formally APPROVED??? Does anyone have an "interview" BEFORE Friday 2/11??? Last edited by DRAB_81; 02-04-2011 at 11:44 AM.. |
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I'm aware of a few denials (some or all are not CGNers specifically).
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Do you know the specifics? Particularly, was it gc based, was it an outright(letter in the mail) denial, or was thaere an interview then denial?
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wildhawker, I know you just got back last Friday, but I need to talk to you about my interview this Friday. I sent you a couple PM's with my phone number, so please call me when you get a chance. Thanks again.
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In the Sacramento CCW thread, someone posted a fairly anti-CCW story by KCRA with the vid at http://www.kcra.com/news/26779574/detail.html. I'm posting here because I thought the information about going to the Lodi PD for a CCW sounds terrible based on viewer comment #7:
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I also go in for my interview on the 11th at 10:30 and i am a bit nervous, not knowing what to expect, I feel that I have a darn good GC but after reading this thread I am feeling a bit dissapointed, I can only hope that the sheriff is calling me in to ask a couple of ?'s that he might not have gotten answered by reading my application.
I am keeping my fingers, toes and eyes crossed in hopes that a approval with will be in my future this friday morning |
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^If you wouldn't mind and it's possible, could you post your interview experience as soon as you're done. I'm a little on edge about the interview as well. A little forewarning as to what to expect would be nice.^
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How convenient
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All, I'd like to setup a conference call for Friday evening or this weekend to address the general issues presented to you applicants. Anything you don't wish to share on the call can be addressed separately as time allows. I've been severely crunched for time, and doesn't appear that the next 2 weeks will be any better.
Expect an email from me within 24 hours; if you don't receive one, please email me at bcombs@calgunsgfoundation.org for the call-in info. -Brandon
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Having still not applied for the ccw I'm still anxious to see what happens to you guys. So all the 2/11's (not 211's) got rescheduled due to a funeral?
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It seems just the a.m. appointments were pushed back. I'm still on schedule for 4pm. Well, they haven't called me to reschedule, so I'm assuming it's still on.
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My 3:30 has not been rescheduled either. I sure wish I knew what I was walking into here. I guess I'm going to find out tomorrow afternoon...
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Well, it can't be too in-depth if you're at 3:30 and I'm at 4. Let's just hope its a formal meeting so he can see that we're not complete weirdos, thug types, etc. However, I'm prepared for the 3rd degree.
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Just got out. Actually, still in the parking lot. No answer, but seems like it could go either way.
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Ok, here's what happened.
Sheriff Moore saw me right on schedule and was very polite. We got down to business very quickly. He reminded me that he's not anti gun, an NRA member, but not exactly keen on everyone carrying. The jist of the interview was him asking me why I, more than the average citizen, needs to carry. Basically, I had to elaborate on my good cause. There were other things discussed that were specific to me, but 99% of it was my good cause. He didn't seem interested in anything else. I was in and out in about 20 minutes. He said that he has yet to make a decission in my case, which is evident by the fact that I didn't get an approval or denial, hence the interview. After which, he was still undecided. I really feel like this is going to go the same route as Sacramento. Sheriff Moore, though somewhat sympathetic to what we're doing, doesn't seem to be willing to give it up. I really feel like this could go either way for me.
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What is a need?
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Do working citizens need to change jobs to a job that necessitates a ccw!? b.s! I open carry my firearm. It is valuable. All firearms are valuable. I carry a valuable item. Some people cannot obtain the item legally, rare for some to lawfully possess. I open carry to protect myself. In my room(loaded) at 3am while my mom sleeps. In the back yard and front yard playing with my cats or cutting the grass. I really wanna open carry at walmart.(Please PM me if there is anything wrong with open carrying in walmart which is open to the public) I haven't built up the confidence yet so I can also protect my mom when shopping with her, thats the reason I got my first firearm anyway. I weigh 150lbs of nothing. I can't just shout this is sparta and go super saiyan on somebody home invading. I need to switch to target tho =). I haven't seen anything happen that has made me fearful of my mom's life or mine in the walmart parking lots or inside the store, But I would have to say that is where I stereotype/assume something would happen to my mom. Moving along. I think my logic is flawed. Need..necessity. Do I need to open carry. But telling somebody to stop open carrying is like telling somebody to stop working with valuables or large sums of money, or stop working with...I don't know the words...high profile items etc. It seems more of why does my current lifestyle necessitate a ccw...using that logic I can't see how I'm above average. I don't have any special licenses, or purposes. = \ But my current lifestyle is open carrying. Wearing my firearm? Synonymous with jewelry? Have jewelers been granted ccw's but not people that wear the high dollar jewelry? Did Sheriff Moore share with you any other reasons he has issued ccw's for? Specific details at all? Work fields? Licenses? anything? Any kind of NDA or anything of that nature that prevents you from sharing exact questions? Just respect and courtesy? Last edited by IncVoid; 02-11-2011 at 5:08 PM.. |
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Nope. I went down just as I said. It was all about why I need to carry. There was no talk of any other person, any other person's good cause, or any other person's occupation.
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What do you mean by that? Sacramento County is basically shall issue right now, but I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling telling me that San Joaquin County is headed that way.
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(where's the "legal b*tchslap smiley"? ) Oh! here it is... Although, I may be jumping to conclusions
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Point taken, although I don't believe Sheriff Moore took a stance on CCW in his campaign, much less the stance that Sac County's Sheriff took. I'm probably not as educated on Sac County CCW as I should be, which is why I asked.
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I felt like my interview went pretty badly. Here's how it went down:
I arrived 15 minutes early and he took me in right away. Sheriff Moore gave me the same pro-gun/NRA life member speech as Jagertroop. Then he basically stated that I needed to provide him with a reason why my need(specific threats, conditions, etc) to carry was above and beyond that of the average citizen in order for him to approve my application. I stuck to my "good cause" as presented in my application. I told him that I wanted to exercise my right to self defense away from the home. I did let my mouth run a little more than I had planned telling him that there have been several times where I've been out locally at night and felt that I was in a threatened position. He also make mention of the fact that I work at a National Laboratory and that I would be prohibited from carrying to and from work because firearms are prohibited there. I told him that I was already aware of this fact. He said he would take my statement under advisement and that I should be hearing from his office soon. Other than that, he was cordial and quick. I was out of there 15 minutes after I arrived. I hope that legal slap Jagertroop mentioned happens, because I'm pretty confident that's what it's going to take to get a CCW in this county....
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Sheriff Moore has been leveraging his alleged NRA membership for a long time. The facts: he is not pro-gun, and he's very pro-regulation. He "earned" his control over you San Joaquin residents, and he will not give it up willingly.
Run the race, and you will get to the finish line. However, it's not a sprint - it's an endurance course. Remember that San Joaquin County is in the Eastern District of California Federal Court...
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All of that is IRRELEVANT if he doesn't issue permits to allow law-abiding residents to "bear arms" to defend their own lives. "not anti gun" may simply mean he is not for gun confiscation, which is a personal stance since he, in his capacity as sheriff, does not have the authority to do that even if he wanted to.
"NRA member" simply means he chose, for whatever reason (political points?), to send money to the NRA. That's all it takes. Issuing permits, or not, is where the rubber meets the road, is when the pudding is proven, or not. Quote:
(2) In my sig line I've got 35 examples -- can't add any more examples, that one post has reached its character limit -- of people who've saved lives because they CC'ed. IN NOT ONE CASE did the person know ahead of time that they'd need to carry that day. Putting that burden on applicants is BS. People who have yet to be interviewed may want to review my list (I'm sure there's more exhaustive lists somewhere on the web), and maybe even print it out to give to the sheriff to ask him why he demands evidence of heightened risk, a standard which would have caused many people to die in those examples.
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It's premature to discuss a suit, of course, but I'm wondering if there's any history of Sheriff Moore being sued in the past to get an idea how much he digs in his heels.
JagerTroop, I sure do feel bad for you and others. I live in Sacramento but spend a fair amount of time in in SJ County (bought a second home in Stockton recently) and am glad that I've got my CCW but it sure isn't fair. |
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JT, I should have prefaced my last remarks to stating that "I know I'm preaching to the choir."
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Hang in there SJ Calgunners, it'll happen but its going to take some time. I thought it'd never happen in Stanislaus Co. but it appears to just about be a slam dunk now.
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Cool part: Calguns and SAF were specificaly mentioned. In reference to recent efforts/lawsuits challenging CCW restrictions.
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