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Old 11-30-2018, 4:47 PM
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Default EMP - How do you plan to generate power

Now that I've read this report, I'm not sure my generators will be shielded from an EMP. I'm also concerned about solar systems with electronic controllers.

Does anyone here prep with EMP in mind?

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In an extraordinary and sobering report
meant to educate the nation on a growing
threat, a new military study warns that an
electromagnetic pulse weapon attack such
as those developed by North Korea, Russia,
and Iran could essentially challenge the
United States and displace millions.


“Based on the totality of available data,” said

the report from the Air Force’s Air University

and provided to Secrets, “an electromagnetic

spectrum attack may be a threat to the

United States, democracy, and the world

order.”


Findings include that:
- 99 nuclear reactors would likely melt

down without electricity to cool them.

- 4.1 million would be displaced from

areas around the nuclear plants as the

radioactive cloud spread.

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Old 11-30-2018, 7:46 PM
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And it has never happened. Lots of other things to worry and prep for.

Store your "emp" sensitive stuff in a steel shipping container and forget about it. The Nuke they set off in space to create a big enough EMP event is likely to kill us all anyways.
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You could keep your critical control components in a old microwave .
Not a lot of real information on the extent of the damage for instance dose a engine have to be on to fry the electronics.?
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You could keep your critical control components in a old microwave .
Not a lot of real information on the extent of the damage for instance dose a engine have to be on to fry the electronics.?
The typical info idea that is bandied about is that with a EMP, especially one from a nuclear blast, will fry an engine's electronics. However, the latest stuff that I am seeing/reading, is that with the newer cars, if the blast occurs while they are running, all that will happen is that the gauges will go crazy and the engine may not perform as intended. However, if the ignition is shut off, and then restarted, everything resets.
The claim was that while newer cars have more electronics, they also have more protections. Whether that is true or not, only experience may tell.

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Like the Y2K panic. Time will tell.
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Put a faraday cage around generator and inverter for solar.
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If 99 reactors went off-line and melted, do you really think having a generator to keep your fridge running is going to matter. Spend your money on the items you would need to survive an earthquake, fire, flood or any other natural manageable disaster and leave the TEOTWAWKI worries on the back-burner and focus on real survival in a survivable situation. I have said this before, we have advanced as a civilization to the point that if it ever tips the scale and goes that far south, the whole planet will die. I know, some will argue "not me" I am prepared. The fact is, no, you're not prepared as you can't do enough and yes you will all die with the rest of the world if it ever gets to the point of the world's nuclear grid melting down.
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If 99 reactors went off-line and melted, do you really think having a generator to keep your fridge running is going to matter. Spend your money on the items you would need to survive an earthquake, fire, flood or any other natural manageable disaster and leave the TEOTWAWKI worries on the back-burner and focus on real survival in a survivable situation. I have said this before, we have advanced as a civilization to the point that if it ever tips the scale and goes that far south, the whole planet will die. I know, some will argue "not me" I am prepared. The fact is, no, you're not prepared as you can't do enough and yes you will all die with the rest of the world if it ever gets to the point of the world's nuclear grid melting down.
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Solar controllers are small and start at around $12. Buy a backup and shield it. Nuke plants will melt down without electricity to keep them cool. Don't nuke plants produce electricity? I would hope they could tap their own source.
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I made a lead umbrella, should stop an EMP as well as asteroid fallout. When I'm the only flicker of light in a fallen society I'm sure to be safe!
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After reading this some time ago https://www.futurescience.com/emp.html I decided to be indifferent on the subject.
An EMP effect has too many variables that cannot be reasonably dealt with and remains out of my control.
Not worrying about sh_it I cannot control is a good place for me to be.
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Don't nuke plants produce electricity? I would hope they could tap their own source.
It doesn't work like that...
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Electricity is overrated, It's just a fad I tell you.

You want to listen to a radio or use your phone to find out when help is coming to save you?
Just wait around and see when they come to help... then you'll know what time that is.

You want lights in the dark?
A way to create warmth?
Disinfect your water?


There's an app for that called fire and some sticks.


(* Not to be confused with a Fire Stick, fool me once eBay.)


The way I see it is worst case scenario would be EMP from the Sun so strong every electronic device on the planet is gone so you might as well start with fire (if that's the case anything you've stored in a faraday cage might be okay but the demand will be so high for it your life will be at risk if anyone knows you have it and once it breaks it's gone forever.)

the alternative is a lesser or human-caused EMP and even if it disables a lot of the planet and leads to chaos eventually help will arrive to try to stabilize / reset your country and its consumer$.
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EMP is nothing to be completely unconcerned about, but it appears that officialdom doesn't take this report quite as seriously as the author does.

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The book-“ one second after” paints an accurate picture of an EMP attack

A sun flare could do the same thing it did in the 1800’s to telegraph lines.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After
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And it has never happened. Lots of other things to worry and prep for.
Well yes actually it has.
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Well yes actually it has.
Not sure that wiped out any electrical grid.
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I have a handheld HAM radio, extra batteries, an Android tablet with lots of written resources saved on the SD card, a handful of batteries, a battery charger, a flashlight, and a portable solar charger in a tempest cage. I also have lots of candles. That's all the power I plan on needing.
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The Nuke they set off in space to create a big enough EMP event is likely to kill us all anyways.
Totally wrong.

One bomb going off in space can knock out electricity to a large portion of the United States. Let's say the southwest quarter of USA. And meanwhile, you sitting in California would not only *not die*, you probably wouldn't even notice anything unusual happened. Aside from the fact that all electricity seems to be gone and maybe you noticed something really bright in the sky, if it happened at night or you happened to be outdoors.
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Totally wrong.

One bomb going off in space can knock out electricity to a large portion of the United States. Let's say the southwest quarter of USA. And meanwhile, you sitting in California would not only *not die*, you probably wouldn't even notice anything unusual happened. Aside from the fact that all electricity seems to be gone and maybe you noticed something really bright in the sky, if it happened at night or you happened to be outdoors.
Keep telling yourself that and that Santa is real also. I prefer to be prepared for things that have happened not something that hasn't.

I have done a ton of reading on it and all the church has to say on the subject and I'm going with them on this issue.
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Keep telling yourself that and that Santa is real also. I prefer to be prepared for things that have happened not something that hasn't.
You seem to have this mistaken idea that I'm making this schit up or I'm parroting things said by some other internet kook. But that isn't the case. Everything I've said came from legit sources. Like the United States Air Force: https://media.defense.gov/2018/Nov/2...TASK_FORCE.PDF

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I have done a ton of reading on it and all the church has to say on the subject and I'm going with them on this issue.
Your church? This is a discussion about nuclear weapons and EMP. Are you a member of the Church of Scientology? Because that's the only church I know of that has canonical holy writings about nuclear bombs.
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You seem to have this mistaken idea that I'm making this schit up or I'm parroting things said by some other internet kook. But that isn't the case. Everything I've said came from legit sources. Like the United States Air Force: https://media.defense.gov/2018/Nov/2...TASK_FORCE.PDF



Your church? This is a discussion about nuclear weapons and EMP. Are you a member of the Church of Scientology? Because that's the only church I know of that has canonical holy writings about nuclear bombs.
Yeah I read that report, they agree to disagree. I'm Mormon. The church has done their homework on this and are not concerned, we take our family's safety seriously . Like I said, its has never happened.
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I have a handheld HAM radio, extra batteries, an Android tablet with lots of written resources saved on the SD card, a handful of batteries, a battery charger, a flashlight, and a portable solar charger in a tempest cage. I also have lots of candles. That's all the power I plan on needing.
You need to keep your radio in a microwave if you expect it to work unless it's some antique.
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You need to keep your radio in a microwave if you expect it to work unless it's some antique.
You're joking right? If I put my radio in my microwave it's only a matter of time before I burn my house down . . . I guess then I wouldn't have to worry about an EMP . . .

If there's an event that burns up the circuitry in my radio while inside a tempest cage I'll probably be dead, and there wont be any other radio's to talk to anyway.
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