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Old 11-13-2017, 5:36 PM
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Default unconverted Saiga 7.62x39

Just got a unconverted Saiga
checked the flow chart ... looks like it's okay to me

Is this good with a 10 round magazine in CA
Can't keep up with these goofy everchanging laws
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Old 11-13-2017, 5:39 PM
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It's good to go. (still CA legal, as long as it is not imported by Kalashnikov USA)
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Old 11-13-2017, 6:33 PM
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us has sporting laws so rifle coming in have to be sporty looking in California unconverted saiga is gtg
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:24 AM
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I just searched "Siaga" in the long guns marketplace thread and found the last post to be December 2016.

In other words, you just landed yourself a low-supply / high demand rifle.

I am curious what a featureless Siaga would go for PPT in California these days. I want one, but that may be dependent upon the premium.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:26 AM
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I just searched "Siaga" in the long guns marketplace thread and found the last post to be December 2016.

In other words, you just landed yourself a low-supply / high demand rifle.

I am curious what a featureless Siaga would go for PPT in California these days. I want one, but that may be dependent upon the premium.
They're listed on Gun Broker fairly often. Some folks are asking for unreasonable prices, but I picked up a sporter IZ-132 there for $600 earlier in the year
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:37 AM
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They're listed on Gun Broker fairly often. Some folks are asking for unreasonable prices, but I picked up a sporter IZ-132 there for $600 earlier in the year
Thanks Maulerrr, looks like if I want one that bad...that is the best way to go. Sometimes it takes patience and hassle to get what you want.
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I just searched "Siaga" in the long guns marketplace thread and found the last post to be December 2016.

In other words, you just landed yourself a low-supply / high demand rifle.

I am curious what a featureless Siaga would go for PPT in California these days. I want one, but that may be dependent upon the premium.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:34 AM
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The Russian stock Saiga is CA compliant for sure. I'm selling one:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1393487

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I just searched "Siaga" in the long guns marketplace thread and found the last post to be December 2016.

In other words, you just landed yourself a low-supply / high demand rifle.

I am curious what a featureless Siaga would go for PPT in California these days. I want one, but that may be dependent upon the premium.
This one was $650 with 500 rounds of ammo
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This one was $650 with 500 rounds of ammo
I'd say you got a good deal if the rifle is in decent shape.

Whatever you do, don't do a conversion. They're perfectly fine in their stock configuration.
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Old 11-14-2017, 7:54 PM
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wow just about to put up 1 of my saigas glad to see interest still on the up and up. unconverted of coarse
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I think in this state an unconverted saiga is the best bet no point converting. Awesome rifle I bought mine in 2012 it was my first firearm purchase.
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Aceptable accuracy but the fire control group SUCKS - PIA - To reassemble - 3 hands make it easier.
The trigger has way too much take up and it is quite heavy. Both take up and pull weight can be modified but you might get out of the case hardening and have too re-harden the ware points. I don't know of anyone that makes a replacement group.
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Aceptable accuracy but the fire control group SUCKS - PIA - To reassemble - 3 hands make it easier.
The trigger has way too much take up and it is quite heavy. Both take up and pull weight can be modified but you might get out of the case hardening and have too re-harden the ware points. I don't know of anyone that makes a replacement group.
agreed stock trigger sucks... It be nice to keep it a sporter, but that trigger has to go...

You should also do the mag conversion, I hated paying more for saiga mags than Ak mags...
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agreed stock trigger sucks... It be nice to keep it a sporter, but that trigger has to go...

You should also do the mag conversion, I hated paying more for saiga mags than Ak mags...
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Aceptable accuracy but the fire control group SUCKS - PIA - To reassemble - 3 hands make it easier.
The trigger has way too much take up and it is quite heavy. Both take up and pull weight can be modified but you might get out of the case hardening and have too re-harden the ware points. I don't know of anyone that makes a replacement group.
Drop in an ALG trigger and Krebs retainer plate and you are gtg.
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Old 11-15-2017, 5:16 PM
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I modified a Tapco G2 by cutting the trigger off the bottom and it was MUCH better than the factory one.
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Spelling incorrect, try “saiga”.

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HA! That's embarrassing...looks like that will help in keeping en eye out for something unconverted in my area.

Thanks Squid...
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+1 on doing the mag conversion. Easy to do and nice to have the option of running ak mags.
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Here are trigger groups for un converted saigas. They are are reworked Tapco ak triggers. I had a set in a saiga I had and it was definately an improvement.
http://www.dinzagarms.com/misc_parts/fcg.html
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Interesting - Thank you
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Old 11-17-2017, 9:01 AM
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Here are trigger groups for un converted saigas. They are are reworked Tapco ak triggers. I had a set in a saiga I had and it was definately an improvement.
http://www.dinzagarms.com/misc_parts/fcg.html
I had no idea there was even an option for an upgraded trigger for the Sporter model. Thank you very much sir!
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Here are trigger groups for un converted saigas. They are are reworked Tapco ak triggers. I had a set in a saiga I had and it was definately an improvement.
http://www.dinzagarms.com/misc_parts/fcg.html
This trigger group made a huge difference. If I remember correctly I believe it brought the trigger pull to 4lbs. Its a small shop so just be patient with delivery
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