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Old 07-16-2018, 5:54 PM
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Default LGS Find - Marlin 1894CS 357

Got lucky a couple of weeks ago and found a JM stamped Marlin in 357. Based on a serial number lookup, it was manufactured in 1997.

I took it shooting today -- after drifting the sights, was grinning ear to ear at how it shot. The 18.5 inch barrel is perfect. What a nicely balanced fun shooter!

This is my first Marlin lever gun. After having shot it, I now understand why so many people love them and seek them out.

I was shooting PPU 357 158gr








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Old 07-16-2018, 5:57 PM
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Nice score! Looking for one myself. Good looking rifle. Ennnjoy!
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Old 07-16-2018, 6:16 PM
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Nice score! Looking for one myself. Good looking rifle. Ennnjoy!
Thanks! Be vigilant and find one. They're worth it.
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Old 07-16-2018, 6:47 PM
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You bastard! Enjoy it!

If you don't mind, how much $? I've been casually keeping an eye out for one too.
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You bastard! Enjoy it!

If you don't mind, how much $? I've been casually keeping an eye out for one too.
$700 plus fees.
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That's a nice looking rifle right there!
I scored one a year or so ago, an '89, and finally shot it two weeks ago (it was missing a screw - which I ordered and then misplaced).
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Old 07-16-2018, 7:33 PM
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Wait till you shoot 38 specials in it.
Like shooting a 22 with bigger holes.
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Awesome. Helluva deal!
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Ahhhh! Now you know why!

These things are amazing. Mine was built in 1989, and it needed a little work to feed reliably, but it has always been accurate with jacketed projectiles.

If you want someday to shoot lead bo0lits, either handloaded cartridges or something from the boutique ammo makers (Garret Cartridges, Buffalo Bore Ammunition, etc...) you will want to use a bullet +/-.002" oversize (.358-.359"), to fill the Microgroove barrel's groove diameter. This will reduce the chance of leading the barrel, and ensuring that the bullet is securely gripped by the barrel rifling, promoting accuracy.

Standard-sized (.357") jacketed bullets have a much-softer lead core which "slugs up" to groove diameter, and of course the copper metal jacket shields the bore against leading.
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I've been looking for a new one but it seems that the new batch has dried up. Turners says they have some on the way.
The one I handled a few weeks ago was really nice, except for the front sight.

Nice gun, thank you for sharing.
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Old 07-17-2018, 6:36 AM
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200Apples -- thanks for the info. Not into reloading at this point, maybe in the future.

Mine cycles 357 and 38spl no problem. The action is butter smooth. Trigger weight is right around 3.5 pounds
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Conga-rats! They are great guns. My JM Marlin 1894C loves PMC and American eagle 158 grain JSP, which is the most accurate ammo that I've found in my gun. For economy shooting, Federal 38 Special 158 grain RNL works well. I can hit the steel silhouette at a lasered 137 yards with that 38 Special load.
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Congrats!! Great find at an excellent price for a JM stamped model. I know. Here's mine that was made in 1996.

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$700 is a steal. I paid $900 for mine a few years ago and had to have it shipped to CA.
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I recently acquired a presafety JM 1894 in 357/38 and finally got the chance to shoot it. I actually put a few 38 spl rounds on a steel silhouette at 200 yards. Took me a while to figure out the hold over, but the bullet was going so slow that I could come up off the sights in time to see it hit.
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Outstanding rifle!

Congrats OP.
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Old 07-18-2018, 5:43 PM
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Great looking gun and price!
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I recently acquired a presafety JM 1894 in 357/38 and finally got the chance to shoot it. I actually put a few 38 spl rounds on a steel silhouette at 200 yards. Took me a while to figure out the hold over, but the bullet was going so slow that I could come up off the sights in time to see it hit.
I zeroed my Marlin with 357. Figuring out the hold with 38spl took a bit of doing.
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Awesome! I just DROS’ed one on Saturday at a LGS. I had been thinking about one for a while, and there it was up on the rack between an Uberti and a Rossi. I can’t wait to shoot it.

The serial number starts with “92...” so I think that means it was made In 1992. It looks like yours, but without the checkering on the wood. It also has a rail mounted on the receiver.
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The serial number starts with “92...” so I think that means it was made In 1992.
I believe that with Marlin's numbering system you subtract the first two digits from '100'. So, 100 - 92 = 08 meaning that yours was manufactured in 2008.
Link: http://www.marlin-collectors.com/for...pic.php?t=2288
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Awesome! I just DROS’ed one on Saturday at a LGS. I had been thinking about one for a while, and there it was up on the rack between an Uberti and a Rossi. I can’t wait to shoot it.

The serial number starts with “92...” so I think that means it was made In 1992. It looks like yours, but without the checkering on the wood. It also has a rail mounted on the receiver.
Congrats, you're going to love it. Post a pic when you can.

See Kokopelli's post to date you Marlin.
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Kokopelli is correct.
The SN# on my JM 1894 .357 CARBINE starts with "19" so it was made in 1981.
Bought it NIB a couple of years ago on GB.
For what it's worth or not, I added a barrel roll mark photo that spells out "CARBINE", not just a capitol "C".
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You're going to love that 357 Lever, they are really fun to shoot and very versatile.

I was lucky enough to find a Cowboy Limited some years ago that had been setup for CASS and I added a Skinner receiver sight. My wife shot her Son's 45 Colt CL and asked me why we don't have one... that sounded like permission to buy another rifle!!! So now she has a 45 Colt with a Lyman tang sight.

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Kokopelli, thank you for the date information. I thought it looked great for being 26 years old, but it makes sense that it’s only 10.

I’ll post a picture when I get it.
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You're going to love that 357 Lever, they are really fun to shoot and very versatile.

I was lucky enough to find a Cowboy Limited some years ago that had been setup for CASS and I added a Skinner receiver sight. My wife shot her Son's 45 Colt CL and asked me why we don't have one... that sounded like permission to buy another rifle!!! So now she has a 45 Colt with a Lyman tang sight.

Very nice! Those are keepers.
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Congrats!! Great find at an excellent price for a JM stamped model. I know. Here's mine that was made in 1996.

Yeesh - hope you got a deal on that one.

There's some kind of huge blemish on the receiver.
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You're going to love that 357 Lever, they are really fun to shoot and very versatile.

I was lucky enough to find a Cowboy Limited some years ago that had been setup for CASS and I added a Skinner receiver sight. My wife shot her Son's 45 Colt CL and asked me why we don't have one... that sounded like permission to buy another rifle!!! So now she has a 45 Colt with a Lyman tang sight.

Brian, those two guns are beutiful. What the hec was I thinking back in the 70s. I was in my teens and not thinking about buying guns. Stupid, stupid, stupid...so so many missed opportunities..

Thank you for sharing
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I finished my wait and picked up my 1894C in 357/38. I hope to take it out to the range tomorrow. I misremembered the serial number previously; it starts with 93..., so I guess it is a 2007 gun. It’s in great shape. I got lucky finding one at a LGS for a reasonable price. The tag was dated 3/31, so it had been sitting in there a while.

Now I just need to figure out how to loosen the Loctite to remove the receiver rail. For now I don’t plan to use an optic.

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Now I just need to figure out how to loosen the Loctite to remove the receiver rail.

Very nice find brother. Looking forward to the range report.

Put a heat gun to the screws and make sure you have the right bit. You got this
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Nice carbine.

I am going to disagree and say that it isn't a "steal"....more like fair market value.

I am still jealous. I still need a lever in .357 and .44 mag. I picked up a ported JM guide gun recently for $550 and that has slaked my thirst for the time being.

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Very nice find brother. Looking forward to the range report.

Put a heat gun to the screws and make sure you have the right bit. You got this
You could probably take a cheap soldering iron, touch it to the screw head for a few minutes, and it would loosen that loctite right up.

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I finished my wait and picked up my 1894C in 357/38. I hope to take it out to the range tomorrow. I misremembered the serial number previously; it starts with 93..., so I guess it is a 2007 gun. It’s in great shape. I got lucky finding one at a LGS for a reasonable price. The tag was dated 3/31, so it had been sitting in there a while.

Now I just need to figure out how to loosen the Loctite to remove the receiver rail. For now I don’t plan to use an optic.

Great-looking Marlin, RocketRider. Nice find!
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I am going to disagree and say that it isn't a "steal"....more like fair market value.
Not many folks are willing to part with one at that price, so at a minimum, he got a really good deal.

Pm me the next time you see one in very good or better condition for $700.
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My son and I had a lot of fun with the 1894C today. We put about 100 rounds through the Marlin, a mix of 357 and 38 that was shared with my S&W 686. We were a little awkward at first, but caught on quickly. We shot steel, and I was able to hit the smallest plates and the furthest targets pretty easily. We’ll be talking it out again soon.

Bainter1212 - thanks for the soldering iron suggestion! I was a big help in removing the Loctite screws to take the rail off the receiver.

Here is a photo of my teenage son with the 1894.
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Not many folks are willing to part with one at that price, so at a minimum, he got a really good deal.

Pm me the next time you see one in very good or better condition for $700.
I will.

I picked up 3 JM stamped Marlin lever guns in the last 2 years. One was $550, one was $500, the other was $260.
Those are private party prices. Those require watchful diligence and patience to find.
$700 is an LGS or Gunbroker price. That is equivalent to a "dealer" price when it comes to used cars. Everybody knows that you can pick up a used car on the private party market for considerably less than you can at a dealer, but it takes more work and patience. But that also means that a low "dealer" price is not a steal, it is just a low dealer price.
That is why, when you get a KBB value for a used car, there are separate sections for dealer and private party. They are two subsections of one market.

Anyway....I would have scoffed at $700 for a JM Marlin lever gun in an LGS, with a couple of rare exceptions. But that is because I am a cheap, bargain hunting bastard. I don't think $700 is overpaying necessarily, it is just my personal version of "top dollar".

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Well as you can see in my avatar I have an affection for Marlins.

From left to right. 22, 357/38,45LC.

The 22 is a Winchester and was replaced last week with a Marlin 22. Now the Winchester is a orphan in the safe.
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I picked up 3 JM stamped Marlin lever guns in the last 2 years. One was $550, one was $500, the other was $260.
What calibers were these?
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I love those pistol cal levers. If you ever want to upgrade that sighting system, check out Skinner sights. They offer receiver mounted or barrel mounted options.
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What calibers were these?
.45-70, .35 rem, .30-30

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