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Old 02-09-2018, 3:39 PM
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Default First trip to the range with my flintlock and have a quick question

I was able to finally get out to Sac Valley with my .40 flintlock. This rifle was built for me by a Pennsylvania craftsman Nate McKenzie.

Shooting this smoke pole was a blast. I love this rifle! First 7 shots went off just fine then of course as soon as I ask the range safety officer to tape my next shot it misfired.

Anyhow all is good.

I do have a weird question, when I got home I cleaned the barrel and lock really well. When I tried to put the ramrod back in, it seemed to get stuck just past the bottom thimble. It seemed extremely tight and I didn’t want to force it. It went in and out just fine at the range. Any ideas?

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Old 02-09-2018, 5:18 PM
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Assuming a wooden ramrod - wood will swell with moisture.
Your rod probably got wet with cleaning solution.
Moreover, if the rod was fitted in the dry Pennsylvania winter in a heated shop, the ramrod as well as the stock wood may have swelled a bit in it's new environment.

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Old 02-09-2018, 5:22 PM
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That's a beautiful rifle. The tiny little pics are just cruel!
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Old 02-09-2018, 5:26 PM
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Yeah probably just a real tight fit. Ramrods are generally pretty strong so don't feel bad about playing with it a bit to get it in.

Oh and WTH man? No PM? MajorSideburns and I were at Sac Valley on Saturday with my flintlock Pennsylvania, Zouave rifle as well as his Springfield .58. Don't leave us hanging....shoot us a PM when you head to the range. We need more guys making smoke

Also...look into the Yolo frontloaders club. Great, great group of people. Their annual charity shoot is a hoot and a half.

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Old 02-09-2018, 5:29 PM
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Oh and I just noticed you have a chamber flag on the bench. Is that a joke, or did you bring a breech loader? Lol

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Hey thanks guys. What’s weird is I didn’t clean it with the wooden rod. I bought a fiberglass one to use as a range rod and cleaning rod.

At the range it went in fine but after cleaning it was super tight as in it’ll break if I pushed anymore.

I’ll let it dry out and see what happens. Isn’t there a retaining piece inside somewhere? Maybe somehow it got out of whack?

Hey Bainter, sorry forgot to PM you �� will never ever happen again ok? ��

How do I make the pics larger? Ever since photobucket went down I haven’t posted any pics.

Can I post a short video? I had the RO tape me demonstrating how to handle misfires like a boss! ��
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Oh and I just noticed you have a chamber flag on the bench. Is that a joke, or did you bring a breech loader? Lol

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Ok long story short cute girl at the office and I was just making conversation and I said “so how do I show safe?” She said “don’t you have a chamber flag”? And I said yup and she goes well use it. But uhhhh its a flintlock. She said stick it in the hole. But uhhh miss there is no hole? So finally she said put it in there somewhere.

See I always fully comply with range rules. 😀
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Ok long story short cute girl at the office and I was just making conversation and I said “so how do I show safe?” She said “don’t you have a chamber flag”? And I said yup and she goes well use it. But uhhhh its a flintlock. She said stick it in the hole. But uhhh miss there is no hole? So finally she said put it in there somewhere.

See I always fully comply with range rules.
Ummm....she told you to stick it in wherever. I am pretty sure that was code for "ask me out and we'll have some fun". Or have I just become a dirty old man?

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Ummm....she told you to stick it in wherever. I am pretty sure that was code for "ask me out and we'll have some fun". Or have I just become a dirty old man?

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Ummmm the latter.
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That's a beautiful rifle. The tiny little pics are just cruel!
THIS ^^^ Pics are the size of a postage stamp, what a shame...

Host the pics on http://tinypic.com
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Very nice looking rifle - absolutely loved shooting flint, rifle and pistol -

Back in the days when I could spend a day shooting and another evening cleaning my guns - the past.

Great stuff.

As mentioned wood swells with heat, damp, oil, water, moisture, I wouldn't worry.

The MP44 had to be kept outdoors in Russia as the wood stock would swell in the warmth of the indoors (after being outdoors in the cold) and compress the recoil spring - basically stopping the rifle from working.
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Ok sorry for the small pics.

Here are larger ones.








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Obviously the flag safety is useless on a muzzleloader. I just put my rifle in the racks behind the firing line during ceasefires. Also, a brass range rod is nice. Leave that wooden ramrod on the rifle for hunting and show.

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Obviously the flag safety is useless on a muzzleloader. I just put my rifle in the racks behind the firing line during ceasefires. Also, a brass range rod is nice. Leave that wooden ramrod on the rifle for hunting and show.

http://www.rmcoxyoke.com/inc/sdetail...andle/6546/215
+1, those custom brass rods are nice, I have two of them.

Don't use the ramrod that came with that gun unless you want to wreck it in short order.

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Ok finally figured out how to post a vid on YouTube.

This is my first and only misfire. I didn’t see that I hadn’t put enough powder in the pan. Worked great before and after.

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Hey thanks guys. What’s weird is I didn’t clean it with the wooden rod. I bought a fiberglass one to use as a range rod and cleaning rod.

At the range it went in fine but after cleaning it was super tight as in it’ll break if I pushed anymore.

I’ll let it dry out and see what happens. Isn’t there a retaining piece inside somewhere? Maybe somehow it got out of whack?
It probably flipped wrong way when you put it back together.
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I didn’t remove the barrel and the only piec I took off was the lock. What is the piece that flipped the wrong way?

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I didn’t remove the barrel and the only piec I took off was the lock. What is the piece that flipped the wrong way?

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On my BP rifles the front screw of the lock holds the piece that holds the ram rod from falling out. When you remove the barrel from stock it can flip over and stop the ram rod from going all the way in, if you removed the front screw it's probably just laying loose in there.
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Very nice looking flintlock! The curly maple stock is gorgeous! It looks like there is only one screw holding the lock. I have a similar set up on my flinter. What I recommend doing is removing the lock and barrel. Then try and insert the wood ramrod. You should be able to see if there are any obstructions.
When shooting my flint rifle, just before pulling back the cock from the safe position (hammer to you cap lock shooters) I wipe the pan AND the flint to remove any residue. It shouldn't take a whole lot of powder in the pan to ignite the charge.
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Very nice looking flintlock! The curly maple stock is gorgeous! It looks like there is only one screw holding the lock. I have a similar set up on my flinter. What I recommend doing is removing the lock and barrel. Then try and insert the wood ramrod. You should be able to see if there are any obstructions.
When shooting my flint rifle, just before pulling back the cock from the safe position (hammer to you cap lock shooters) I wipe the pan AND the flint to remove any residue. It shouldn't take a whole lot of powder in the pan to ignite the charge.
Where is the piece that holds the ramrod in on the one screw lock rifles?
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Where is the piece that holds the ramrod in on the one screw lock rifles?
Good question! I'm not sure, but on my rifle it appears that the ram rod pipes are slightly off center of the ram rod entry hole.
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TMB1, PM me. 530 is a large area. What part of SOJ51 are you?
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Ok long story short cute girl at the office and I was just making conversation and I said “so how do I show safe?” She said “don’t you have a chamber flag”? And I said yup and she goes well use it. But uhhhh its a flintlock. She said stick it in the hole. But uhhh miss there is no hole? So finally she said put it in there somewhere.

See I always fully comply with range rules. ��

The chamber flags also allow the rangemaster to check the line for compliance with a set of binoculars. When I am shooting my flinter or one of my cap locks I put the flag in the lock, between hammer and frizzen or nipple. At least it shows the rangemaster you are thinking about it.
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Get a yellow feather and put it in the flash hole for a chamber flag.
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