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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Planned Peaceful Protest in Sacramento on January 19th.
There has been a movement starting up on FaceBook to protest in our state capitals across the country on January 19th. Yours truly got suckered, I mean convinced to organize our protest in our capital here in Sacramento California.
Please make the jump for more information: http://www.facebook.com/events/14463...65131357271463 We as the armed intelligencia have been actively working with all the electrons we can muster in the inerwebie, but as we have plainly seen in places like Illinois and New York City our politicians have been moving forward regardless. It is time to get outside and see the sunlight. Let them not only hear our voices via phone, fax, and email, but also see us. We are teachers, police officers, mothers, fathers, hard working Americans. We can sit on this sight and lament about the things going on or we can say today and now we have had enough! Our rights as Americans are sacred, and part of the fabric of our moral compass as a nation. You may choose to do nothing, or you may choose to peacefully voice your displeasure in our politicians. This will be a peaceful protest. We will obey all laws, and ordinance for the city in which we choose to protest. Special Note, this is California!!!! NO OC or CC allowed! Even if you have a CCW, this is a protest, the last thing we want is something bad happening. Given that this is California we discourage it. Many in recent days have mentioned things like a million man armed march on our nations capital. Well this is almost as good, if not better. Most of the legislation we will see in the coming weeks and months will be at the state level. We must make our voices heard and stand up as Americans to let the world know we will not tolerate this form of tyranny anymore. So if you are interested please look on FaceBook and find your organizer for your state. You can email them directly via FaceBook. For those of you on the West Coast in California. Please contact me directly at dsilver668@gmail.com. I will be contacting other organizations, and also would request help by having folks drop flyers off at local gun shops. We need people out there to make an impression. We must show our solidarity, and unity. I don't think there are any laws against carrying an empty holster. As such this is a great non threatening symbol of the disarmament of American citizens. As far as dress. I can't tell you how to dress folks, this is America! Business casual is preferred, jeans t-shirt. Showing up in full cammo would probably not set the best image, although there is nothing illegal about it. The point is we are your average everyday citizens, and that is what we want to convey. We are your neighbors, teachers, church members. We are not some fringe group that can be ignored, or trampled on. We are the 99%. I will be discussing with the organizer if there is a preferred color, that we can wear to show solidarity. Pink might throw them off a bit eh?? ;-) Last edited by Sanchanim; 01-05-2013 at 11:39 AM.. |
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You do realize that if just one person at the protest fires a gun it will bring down the course of public opinion. What if an anti-gunner is planted at the protest just to do this very thing? A nut-job? I say we do what we can in courts and through communications with senators and congressmen. it's not worth the risk for a protest.
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I'm down but I discourage bringing guns. Not worth chancing it. If someone brings one tell.them to put it away. Then if something happens we would know it wasn't our guys and was most likely someone planted there for us to look bad.
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You guys gonna be on teevee?
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Follow up!
Ok everyone,
Let it be known as I am preaching to the quire here. NO OC or CC allowed! Even if you have a CCW, this is a protest, the last thing we want is something bad happening. My original post done while tired is a cross post. This is a national protest so there are many states where OC is allowed, and excepted. Given that this is California we discourage it. If you went to my post on FaceBook you would have read that. If you are interested in attending please email me. Also if you are able to drop flyers off at you local gun shop or pass them out to friends please do. Right now we are aiming, no pun intended for 12:00 noon on January 19th. We will be protesting at Capitals across the country. |
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Also we will be contacting local news agencies so yes we hope to have both TV and radio representatives present.
If there is anyone who works for CalGuns and wants to be there as an official communications liaison, ie you get to talk to folks in the media please contact me directly. |
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As we get closer I will be speaking with various folks. We will have an organized security staff who's primary function will be to be a fly on the wall and keep things civil.
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How about slings and empty holsters?
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I definitely plan on coming. We need to have some kind of clothing/color to wear for solidarity, and a way to ensure that none of those protesting will come armed.
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Camo unitards.
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I have updated my first post to include your recommendations!
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Sounds like a good idea.
I wouldn't plan on the anti's giving you too much grief as their "attack plan" never changes formula. All you guys have to do is show up and be your average joe selves and keep the tin foil hat nuttery out of the protest. Also be sure to check out if anyone will be around that is under SS protection otherwise that peaceful protest could land you jail time thanks to HR347. My 2 cents is this could be a good way to show whoever is interested that gun owners are average day American citizens. But yeah keep the camo patterns and the "from my cold dead hands" shirts at home. How about something with the flag or red white and blue? A hat or something simple and cheap.
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I live in Sac and want to go! I work on Saturday, so will try and get the day off work. I invited at least 10 others to go with through Facebook.
Emailed you my info, as there's 2 shops I pass by daily here in Elk Grove if you want flyers dropped off. |
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Got your info and replied.
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Ok folks I am going to be organizing the CA protest. Please email me at dsilver668@gmail.com. I want to put together a list for everyone via FB who will be helping etc. It is much easier this way. Dress for Success: I spoke with Eric. We feel business casual, or nice jeans and polo shirt would be best. I know full camo is all the rage these days, but lets keep that for hunting season. If you are affiliated with a church or synagog I have no issue with you wearing your traditional clothes. If you are an EMT, Police, or active duty, I don't mind you dressing in your "work clothes" PLEASE NOTE, those who are active military you must check with your CO on this! I don't want anyone to get in trouble and a possible discharge because of your fashion choice during this protest. LEO's: If you are an LEO and planning on protesting please contact me right away. Safety, and a peaceful protest is critical to our cause. If you will be in uniform I want you to be part of our security team. This means any Sacramento PD who might be involved in basic crowd control can approach you right away if there are any issues at all. If we need to shift crowds, or anything else as far as safety, you can help get the word to everyone else so we can have a civil and well organized event. As a reminder to all we are the law abiding American people. We want to show our unity for our freedoms under the constitution. Yes this is a Pro-2A event, but if they take that away, then it is only a matter of time before everything else goes too. |
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Remember Sanchanim, your not alone in this, there are large pro gun organizations willing to help or give advice. I urge you to contact them for their support.
N.R.A. /A.S.F. etc. Last edited by vanhahner444@hotmail.com; 01-05-2013 at 12:54 PM.. |
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As I have enumerated elsewhere, there is no organization, other than supporters asking people to show up-- now we have two dates suggested both January 19th (a Saturday when no legislator will be there) and February 8th (A Friday where only a few will be able to attend). The OP is asking civil servants to come in uniform, which simply isnt going to be possible for most if not all, even if they wanted to... their employers will not allow it. While it would lend some credibility if it were possible, this suggests to me that very little thought has been invested in putting an event comprised of a diverse cross section of gun owners. It is my earnest wish that we oppose the anti-gun legislature, the anti-gun media, and anti-gun law enforcement, but this isnt an effective way to do any of that. If you are determined to use your first amendment right to a redress of your grievances, I would suggest starting with a phone, fax, and letter writing campaign. Bury them in correspondance opposing every piece of legislation being proposed. By keeping updated by the NRA, CGF, and the Firearms Policy Coalition you can unify your efforts and have a greater effect than gettin 200-300 tubby middle aged white guys parading the Capitol grounds reciting bumper sticker sound bites.
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Remind every one attending firearms are prohibited for the average citizen, even with LTC in Capital Park.
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We are certainly going to try here..
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The February 8th is still going forward, but as many know, work days are difficult to get folks together if at all. Now a Saturday means no one is at the office, although the lights might be on. We are hoping for media coverage, and this certainly does not mean we can't email, write, fax, or call. This is in addition to. This event is being coordinated across multiple capitals in multiple states. We hope this will in fact gain media coverage, and make a point. As you well know once a piece of legislation hits committee we are on it. The SAF, NRA and others get the word out and we make our displeasure known. If we make the evening news in a good way then we will have made our point which is what we are trying to do. |
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I'll be there!
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NO CC or OC NO AIRSOFT or OTHER weapons that could be seen as a potential threat. If I need to repeat it I will. |
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Goodluck and have a safe demonstrations at the capitol. Unfortunately, im in south calif. I will warch you on TEEVEE...
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Okay. So if media coverage is the goal, has someone stepped forward as the sole media contact for the Sacramento event? Are they presentable (suit and tie) and well spoken? Has a press release been developed for distribution to articulate exactly why you are protesting and how any of that applies to state legislation? Is this media contact prepared to be confronted by not only anti-gun reporters from the media (asking questions like: Why do you support mass shooting of Kindergartners?) but also the antagonism of anti-gun counter protesters intended to disrupt your activities?
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I would suggest for uniform of the day, Khakis with a CalGuns Polo using the Bear Patch....This logo is more media friendly than the "ZORT" design. It looks more conservative. If you wear a jacket or hat....same patch. On the hat NRA pin if you are a member and a Gadsden Flag pin.
Suggested uniform for spokesman or spokesmen Navy Blazer Calguns patch as a blazer crest NRA and Gadsden Flag pin on lapel. White or light blue dress shirt and a conservative Red White and Blue Striped tie with grey slacks. The idea of a professional image is absolutely essential. Unarmed is essential including no firearms of any kind nothing that could be mistaken for a firearm, this includes airsoft and "non-guns" Dress as ladies and gentlemen, behave as ladies and gentlemen and speak in the manner of ladies and gentlemen. Put the media on the defensive with your appearance. Do not look like the rabble that was "Occupy Wall Street". When the protest is over, police the area leave no trash behind. Unfortunately I cannot be there I hope these words of wisdom will help. Ed |
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Gun-free zone for a 2A protest.
Ok Trying to digest it. Retired 35+ year cop w/carry endorsement. Not sure I know how to walk without a counter-balance.
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