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Old 09-21-2017, 12:18 PM
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Default Storing very very long rifles

Some BP rifles are too long to fit in the safe. I'd rather not store them in my bedroom since they get used, with real black powder, and can get oily and smell of sulfur slightly.

I was going to build a very small wall mounted gun rack to bolt to a rafter in my garage (which stays clean and dry) and keep "it" up there in a canvas bag, but since things multiply, I now have two rifles too long for my safe. They are both quite valuble, so I don't want them just clunking around. One was OK, but two seems like a bad idea.

I already tried suggesting we put them on the wall over the TV. My wife is anti gun, so I got no nighttime cuddling for a couple weeks after that suggestion. So that's out.

Any other ideas?
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:32 PM
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Rather than Canvas, consider using Borestores Mus-1 or Mus-2
My 44" Bbl Flinters fit just fine in the Mus-1 and reside in a locked closet.

A wipe down, inside and out, with Wonderlube 1000 (or similar) seems to keep the rust and sulfur smell at bay

https://www.amazon.com/Bore-Stores-M...s+gun+case+mus

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Old 09-21-2017, 1:27 PM
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That is not a problem exclusive to black powder! My Krag, Mosins, and Swiss 1911 rifles are all silly long.
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Time to find new wife if no children envolved.

Really, long guns are a problem, small closet but no way to secure to prevent theft, under a 3 person couch is best i can offer.

Finding a small long cabinet is problematic.
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I have to break down a couple of my rifles to fit them in my safe.
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Finding a small long cabinet is problematic.
you're telling me. I hang on craigslist looking for a 6" wide 6' tall locker constantly. Should be a $20 item beat to heck with strange stickers all over it. an afternoon with acetone and a paint can and I'm GTG.

I could of course buy one new any time I want, but retail prices for such a locker seem silly, $400-600 or more. Apparently it's not quite the common item like a 2-drawer metal file cabinet is.
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Old 09-22-2017, 6:10 AM
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Rather than Canvas, consider using Borestores Mus-1 or Mus-2
My 44" Bbl Flinters fit just fine in the Mus-1 and reside in a locked closet.

A wipe down, inside and out, with Wonderlube 1000 (or similar) seems to keep the rust and sulfur smell at bay

https://www.amazon.com/Bore-Stores-M...s+gun+case+mus

https://www.amazon.com/Bore-Stores-M...s+gun+case+mus
+1 on the Bore Stores. Very well made heavy duty gun socks.

Unique cases also make some nice long gun cases at a decent price:

https://uniquecases.com/product-category/musket-cases/

They gouge you for shipping though...
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PVC tube of the appropriate diameter and length.
One end cap glued, the other end a threaded cap.
Either wrapped in oil paper, or wrapped in a soft cloth with Silica packs in the bottom.
Store upright in a closet or hidden in a removable wall panel.
And yes......... I've done it.
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I got this cheap gun locker, not going to call it a "safe" because it's made of thin sheet metal, but it's decent and I have been able to fit anything in there, including .375 Cheytac and .50 BMG. Had to take out the top shelves but you get a good full 62" of length in there.

http://www.gunsafes.com/Sentry-G1464...onic-Lock.html
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I'd recommend duffle cutting them. I did it to some of my rifles so I could store them in my safe.
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I word of caution on storing in the rafters or attic. I stored a few shotguns in my attic for about 5 years and upon retrieving them I found that while the metal was pristine (I oiled them heavily before storage)The stocks on both had cracked. I'm guessing it was due to the extreme temperature swings up there. It gets pretty hot here in Socal. I would stuff them in a bore store sock and keep them in a closet.
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I have to break down a couple of my rifles to fit them in my safe.
This also works well if you are shipping a really long gun and don't want to get hammered with high postage for the oversized box.
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I have a custom built flint lock with a 48 inch swamped barrel. It took me a long time to find a safe that would work. I got a Browning Yukon Gold.

I got it on sale. Saved about $400. Cause nobody wanted it.
The only problem is.....I need a new safe. The guns multiplied!!!!

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Some BP rifles are too long to fit in the safe. I'd rather not store them in my bedroom since they get used, with real black powder, and can get oily and smell of sulfur slightly.

I was going to build a very small wall mounted gun rack to bolt to a rafter in my garage (which stays clean and dry) and keep "it" up there in a canvas bag, but since things multiply, I now have two rifles too long for my safe. They are both quite valuble, so I don't want them just clunking around. One was OK, but two seems like a bad idea.

I already tried suggesting we put them on the wall over the TV. My wife is anti gun, so I got no nighttime cuddling for a couple weeks after that suggestion. So that's out.

Any other ideas?
I need a bigger safe, too. However, SWMBO made me promise not to buy more guns. So, if I want a new one I have to sell an old one .
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What about a Stack-on gun cabinet? If you don't install the shelf it is plenty big/long and lockable. Just put some heavy ammo inside.
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What about a Stack-on gun cabinet? If you don't install the shelf it is plenty big/long and lockable. Just put some heavy ammo inside.
Have you ever actually tried to do this?

I have a Stack On Gun Cabinet. The shelf makes no difference because the barrels of rifles fit in the gap behind the shelf and can use the full height of the cabinet.

But even then the cabinet is not tall enough to accept any really long barreled rifle. Not to mention that even if fully stocked with "heavy ammo" it could easily be lifted with a regular furniture dolly and carted off. You'd have to fill that container with concrete to make it even remotely heavy enough to prevent theft if not bolted down.

To Stack On's credit, it has holes in the back wall to allow for fastening to wall studs. Better than nothing, but I wouldn't use mine for anything better than parts, stocks, ammo, etc.
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I am planning on taking the upper shelves out of my safe so that my Snider, Martinis and Trapdoor will fit. I am investing in gun magnets to hold all of my handguns in place along the ceiling and sides.

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If they smell of sulphur you're not cleaning them completely enough. I've been burning charcoal for 40+ years and mine never smell of sulphur when I'm finished. Maybe your cleaning technique needs a review.
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Sounds like it is time to get a bigger safe to me.
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